Got Menopause?

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  • #54261
    IceFire
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    I think she probably means that a lot of soy is grown from GMO seeds, plus the majority of it has a lot of pesticides used on it during growth.

    #54262
    kymber
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    oh thanks Ice…i wasn’t sure what she meant. and we only buy organic around here. or eat our own. but i don’t grow soy. i will at the homestead.

    #54263
    IceFire
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    I buy organic as much as possible, as well (a local organic farmer has a CSA that I’ve been a member of since he started it) or grow my own, as well. THe only soy I grow (and eat) is a bit of edamame.

    #54264
    kymber
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    Ice – i looove edamame – and we have a local, safe source for it. but my problem is i eat commercially-made (and store-bought) soya sauce by the gallon – i love dipping veggies into it and have even been known to dip bread in it (oh yum!). i should probably stay away from the soy sauce. i wonder if anyone in my little village where the homestead is makes organic soy sauce. maybe?

    #54265
    IceFire
    Moderator

    You’ll have to find a recipe and learn to make it yourself, Kymber. One problem with soy sauce, is that it tends to be VERY high in sodium. If you make your own, you can significantly reduce the amount of sodium in it.

    #54266
    Marica
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    Well when you do grow all the soy you can eat, Kymber, do not eat four pounds a day, or a month.

    It would take me all night to fire up the little neurons in my head that remember all I once knew about estrogen & phytoestrogens and other endocrine stuff, so I just ain’t gonna do it. Maybe my neurons will go off on their own while I sleep. The bottom line is that estrogen is involved in a lot of metabolic pathways, among them thermoregulation– hence, hot flashes and middle-aged ladies in sweaters in July. Soy and other plants contain so-called phytoestrogens– molecules that “look” a lot like estrogen (from a biochemical point of view). They can more or less substitute for estrogen in metabolic & physiological chemical pathways in the brain and in other target tissues.

    I am trying to remember the biosynthetic pathways of estrogen & testosterone synthesis (a problem relating to the 4 pound soy lady I think) but I can’t. Starts with cholesterol but that’s as far as I get. I do know that there is concern in medical research about the over consumption of soy by pre-pubescent boys of strictly vegetarian mothers (the problem begins in pregnancy). Geeze. Can’t remember details. Lower testosterone levels but I can’t remember how it all works.

    IMHO (since my neurons have stopped working I will just prattle on for a few minutes), and as someone who has experienced the joys of that time of life, I appreciate the desire to resist it. But I don’t care what you do, it’s gonna happen. I believe that the trick is to deal with it, and what lies beyond it, gracefully.* It isn’t going to be a lot of fun, and one should certainly make an effort to minimize the discomfort and so on. But guess what? Life goes on. And assuming you & your partner are just that– partners in life, not just in bed– it gets better. The joy of menopause is just another storm you weathered together, and now you can get back to business.** (Pun intended.)

    * I have similar issues with viagra, etc. I wager that men slurping down viagra-laced martinis don’t look like the guys in the ads.
    **And everyone who’s over the age of 21, 31, 41 knows that there’s no such thing as “business as usual.”

    #54267
    kymber
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    Marica – i am only saying this here and now because of your last comment. you know how much i respect and appreciate your opinion and scholastic training and background. and your experience.

    i have been experiencing early-onset menopause for about 6 years (started at age 31ish). i get hot-flashes, spiders up my legs in the middle of the night, wake up and my bed is soaked – all kinds of stuff.

    but i crave salt all the time. which is why i love soya sauce. and i eat tons of it and tons of salt. sometimes i wonder if it is because i was born and raised on an island in the Atlantic Ocean where salt permeates the air and the soil that everything is grown in it. for everyone’s information – Cape Breton island contains the largest-fed salt water lakes in the world – the Bras D’or Lakes. and i wonder if after living with all of that salt – if that is the reason why i crave it so much!

    Marica – my hubby and me are partners for life. one of the things we do best together (outside of bed!) is flump. which is climbing on our couch in the living room (which is actually a King-sized bed filled with pillows – think Meditterranean or Persian) and talk! we talk about everything. we talk about dreams that will never come true and we talk about all of the things that we can make come true. he is my rock!

    but i hope that you get some sleep tonight and come back tomorrow all refreshed and share some more of your keen knowledge with us. i, for one, could really use it!

    i am sorry if this comment is all over the place. i have so many ideas and questions in my mind based on your last post. sorry to anyone who is confused or bored by this.

    #54268
    Marica
    Member

    Oh Kymber. No offense, and you know that. I know that you & your DH can weather anything that comes along. I do understand about the early onset thing. Me too. Soaking sheets suck. I get it. My guy grumbled but understood (after i explained it to him several time) I had to wake him up, get him out of bed… . I did sort of targeted the “you” at you, but it was meant more generally at you– the you who’s reading, experiencing these changes, not saying a word. I’m on the other side of menopause. Menopause has the potential to change a relationship for the worse (not yours!), or for the better (man, if he can put up with this, he must really like me!). As does the issue viagra targets. I was just trying to put it in context.

    Frankly, the whole thing sucks big time, and most especially when it starts in the prime of *things*. But what I wanted to say is that it’s over at some point. And you move on. Deal with it. Move on. (Again. not you, K., just a championing an attitude.)

    The explanation for why you craze salt is totally plausible. Go research the Dutch Hunger Famine.

    #54269
    Phelan
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    I have craved huge amounts of salt since I was a child. It has lessen recently, but hits hard when TOM visits.

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