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Re: Feeling more nervous as of late...anyone else?

Postby rebnavy1862 » Thu Oct 20, 2016 6:14 pm

Sounds good to me. The draft beer, that is.
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Re: Feeling more nervous as of late...anyone else?

Postby globetrotter » Tue Dec 20, 2016 6:03 pm

Fascinating discussion I read the whole thing.

I read recently that being physically prepared is one thing, but being mentally prepared is a whole other level.

I think that relates to being nervous too. When SHTF how will people stay resilient?
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Re: Feeling more nervous as of late...anyone else?

Postby angie_nrs » Wed Dec 21, 2016 8:52 pm

globetrotter wrote:When SHTF how will people stay resilient?


Some won't. In fact, I think most won't. I think those who don't know squat about self sufficiency will suffer the most. They will be PO'd when they can't get their luxuries and shortly thereafter the fear will set in. They'll think....now what? :eek: How am I going to eat? How am I going to shower? Where should I go? What should I do? How am I going to get anywhere? Then all their ideas of what life is will collapse and the panic will begin. Many of those will likely lack the skills to survive in a harsh world. I'm thinking typical celebrities and the like would fall into that category.

Even for those who have anticipated such an event will suffer.....but probably not to the extent of those who have never even considered the possibility. Pure survival would come first. The "resiliency" part of it would come later. I think resilient people are those who have (and can) do without and still prosper....or those who can overcome what seem like impossible odds. I don't see that "can do" attitude much these days and it plays a major role in resiliency. Intelligence will also play a big part and "survival of the fittest" will once again become the norm. I think faith will also play a big role for most resilient people. Faith helps to make sense of it all, even when it seems nothing matters anymore.
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Re: Feeling more nervous as of late...anyone else?

Postby Cast Iron » Thu Dec 22, 2016 8:19 am

angie_nrs wrote:
globetrotter wrote:When SHTF how will people stay resilient?


Some won't. In fact, I think most won't. I think those who don't know squat about self sufficiency will suffer the most. They will be PO'd when they can't get their luxuries and shortly thereafter the fear will set in. They'll think....now what? :eek: How am I going to eat? How am I going to shower? Where should I go? What should I do? How am I going to get anywhere? Then all their ideas of what life is will collapse and the panic will begin. Many of those will likely lack the skills to survive in a harsh world. I'm thinking typical celebrities and the like would fall into that category.

Even for those who have anticipated such an event will suffer.....but probably not to the extent of those who have never even considered the possibility. Pure survival would come first. The "resiliency" part of it would come later. I think resilient people are those who have (and can) do without and still prosper....or those who can overcome what seem like impossible odds. I don't see that "can do" attitude much these days and it plays a major role in resiliency. Intelligence will also play a big part and "survival of the fittest" will once again become the norm. I think faith will also play a big role for most resilient people. Faith helps to make sense of it all, even when it seems nothing matters anymore.


Maslow's hierarchy of needs.

In today's American, Self-actualization, Self-esteem, Love,/belonging seem to be lacking.

For that matter, the whole pyramid may not apply to the average American.
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Re: Feeling more nervous as of late...anyone else?

Postby angie_nrs » Thu Apr 20, 2017 9:12 pm

I was thinking of this thread recently so I thought I'd revive it. The OP presented this thread in 2014.... I have felt nervous since then (it goes in peaks and valleys) as does life. But, recently I seem to be at peak again. I guess I just need to turn off the TV! However, it does inspire me tie up some loose ends. I have done that to some extent this past couple of weeks and months. It feels good to cross some things off the list, but it seems like every time I do that, there's more to add and other things to concentrate on. :'( Still, it feels good to get some long standing projects completed.....even if they're not necessarily 'prep' related.

Tomorrow is another shopping spree to stock up on things we have used and look for some bargains along the way. I don't know if it's the tensions with NK or just what it is, but again I feel the urgency to ramp it up. It's like the nesting feeling I get in the fall. Geez......I'm feeling that uneasiness more and more. After I get home tomorrow I plan to chill out a bit. Then, I've got big plans for the weekend.....lots of chores to get done, especially before mushroom season kicks into full gear. I hope it's just my spring cleaning mood/mentality kicking in, but this feels different (I think). Somehow I have a feeling things are gonna get worse before they get better as far as this nervous feeling is concerned. :x I so hope I'm wrong about that! I'm just so tired of everyone being so angry, argumentative, polarized, and cranky all the time! Maybe it's just because I live with a teenager? :whistling:
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Re: Feeling more nervous as of late...anyone else?

Postby 3ADScout » Fri Apr 21, 2017 12:41 pm

Angie,

I know what you are saying! Just picked up 100 pounds of rice and 20 pounds of beans and a can of mountain house beef and chicken. Had the wife pick up some extra bottled water.
Discussed with a friend about moving all food to BOL. Lots of military activity around the world. The media and sheep would like to just say it is "saber rattling" well maybe it is but what do you think the papers would say in 1938, 1939 etc? Probably just saber rattling right?
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Re: Feeling more nervous as of late...anyone else?

Postby Illini Warrior » Fri Apr 21, 2017 1:27 pm

3ADScout wrote:Angie,

I know what you are saying! Just picked up 100 pounds of rice and 20 pounds of beans and a can of mountain house beef and chicken. Had the wife pick up some extra bottled water.
Discussed with a friend about moving all food to BOL. Lots of military activity around the world. The media and sheep would like to just say it is "saber rattling" well maybe it is but what do you think the papers would say in 1938, 1939 etc? Probably just saber rattling right?



if you prep - you should have moved up your level of preparedness a few notches over the Korea SHTF - especially after the Prez Trump warning and the then the big ole "F_CK You" finger NK gave back in return - it's not going away and all the potential serious SHTFs involved are mind blowing ....

looking more and more everyday that crunch day is next Tuesday the 25th - it'll be hour by hour after that for a US response - a China response - or a mutual response together ....
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Re: Feeling more nervous as of late...anyone else?

Postby Photon Guy » Fri Apr 21, 2017 1:45 pm

angie_nrs wrote:I'm just so tired of everyone being so angry, argumentative, polarized, and cranky all the time! Maybe it's just because I live with a teenager? :whistling:


Well that would depend on the particular teenager you're living with. Teenagers are just like everybody else, some might be argumentative and cranky and might make you like that too and some are not. I don't know the particular teenager you're living with but I will say that you should judge people by who they are, not their age.
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Re: Feeling more nervous as of late...anyone else?

Postby ReadyMom » Fri Apr 21, 2017 5:40 pm

Illini Warrior wrote:
looking more and more everyday that crunch day is next Tuesday the 25th - it'll be hour by hour after that for a US response - a China response - or a mutual response together ....


Why? What did I miss (or forget :blush: ) -k
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Re: Feeling more nervous as of late...anyone else?

Postby rickdun » Fri Apr 21, 2017 6:15 pm

ReadyMom, I may have missed something too, as far as the 25th, unless that's when North Korea plans on another missile test/nuclear test.

But, China has moved 150,000 troops to it's border with North Korea and Russia has moved troops and military equipment to it's border with North Korea.

Are they going to help defend North Korea, stop the migration if something happens, or help the U.S. if we strike, time will tell. But I did buy some more rice, beans, powdered milk, peanut butter powder, etc..
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Re: Feeling more nervous as of late...anyone else?

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Re: Feeling more nervous as of late...anyone else?

Postby Illini Warrior » Sat Apr 22, 2017 7:20 am

ReadyMom wrote:
Illini Warrior wrote:
looking more and more everyday that crunch day is next Tuesday the 25th - it'll be hour by hour after that for a US response - a China response - or a mutual response together ....


Why? What did I miss (or forget :blush: ) -k



North Korea - like many of the Asian countries and countries trying to inspire - use historical dates for highliting supposed achievements - May Day for the Russians as an example ... April had 3 such dates - the 25th is the next - whether NK is ready for another nuke testing is up to debate - China seems to think or they know for certain that there's a test coming ....

the US attack is most likely ready to go - it'll be a mass attack by stealth bombers using earth penetrating bunker buster bombs and strategic hits on radar and anti-aircraft ... most likely take out all of the ballistic missile and nuke capabilities - but there's supposedly 8,000 bunkers of all kinds honeycombed all over NK ... what doesn't seem ready for the US is the regular military gear - like the Navy carrier force - to counter the NK attack on South Korea and the US Army DMZ forces - ????
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Re: Feeling more nervous as of late...anyone else?

Postby ReadyMom » Sat Apr 22, 2017 9:19 am

ReadyMom wrote:
Illini Warrior wrote:
looking more and more everyday that crunch day is next Tuesday the 25th - it'll be hour by hour after that for a US response - a China response - or a mutual response together ....


Why? What did I miss (or forget :blush: ) -k


Aaaahh .... here we go:

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April 25 Is "Highest Probability" Day For North Korean Nuclear Test China Warns
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-1 ... clear-test

According to a report by Korea JoongAng Daily, China appears to be preparing measures in case North Korea tests a nuclear device or performs another provocation, including possibly suspending oil to the regime, and adds that relations between Beijing and Pyongyang appear frostier than ever before.

Additionally, the Korea publication references the Chinese-language Boxun News, which cites a Beijing source, according to whom Chinese President Xi Jinping attempted to send Wu Dawei, China’s special representative for Korean Peninsula affairs, to Pyongyang after his summit with U.S. President Donald Trump, but North Korean leader Kim Jong-un allegedly rejected Wu’s visit.

Boxun adds that it was unclear if North Korea did not conduct a sixth nuclear test last Saturday because of Beijing’s warning not to do so, however it adds that according to "analysts" there’s a high likelihood of a provocation on the 85th anniversary of the founding of the North Korean People’s Army next Tuesday and the days leading up to the South Korean presidential election on May 9.

Citing its Chinese source, Boxun said that "China believes there is the “highest possibility” of a nuclear test on April 25, but “does not leave out the possibility it might take action in early May."

One assumes the Carl Vinson, wherever it may be in the world currently, will eventually make it to North Korea by then.

Meanwhile, South Korean officials cited by JoongAng Daily confirmed that Wu, China’s top nuclear envoy, during a visit to Seoul last week said he proposed to visit Pyongyang in person to persuade the North to refrain from further provocations but he was spurned.

Lu Chao, a Chinese expert on Korean studies at the Liaoning Academy of Social Sciences, was among multiple analysts that told the state-affiliated tabloid Global Times Tuesday that if North Korea did not refrain from conducting its sixth nuclear test, it would “definitely trigger” more intense United Nations sanctions, and that China will implement them.

Victor Cha, the Korea Chair at the Washington-based Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS), said the “provocation window” between South Korean elections and North Korean provocations has become narrower over time, referring to database collected over the past 60 years. That window refers to the proximity in time between a South Korean election and a provocative act by North Korea, meaning a nuclear or missile test.

Cha said such a pattern “suggests a provocation as early as two weeks” before the South Korean presidential elections on May 9. That two-week window overlaps with North Korea’s military foundation day on April 25.

Meanwhile, amid escalating military tensions in the region, the Chinese navy tested its new guided-missile destroyer, the Xining, in its first live-fire exercise conducted in the Yellow Sea, near the Korean Peninsula, broadcast on China’s state-run CCTV on Tuesday. The Xining, China’s Type 052D-class missile destroyer with was put into service by the People’s Liberation Army Navy in January.

The exercise, possibly warning against a North Korean military provocation, was reported to have lasted several days and comes as Beijing has called for North Korea to give up its nuclear ambitions under renewed pressure from the Trump administration. U.S. Vice President Mike Pence warned Monday in Seoul the “era for strategic patience is over.”

Trump has been lauding Beijing for helping with the Pyongyang situation, especially over sending back North Korean vessels bringing coal to a Chinese port. Trump told Fox News Tuesday in reference to Chinese President Xi Jinping, “He’s working so nicely that many coal ships have been sent back. Fuel is being sent back. They’re not dealing the same way. Nobody’s ever seen it like that.” As reported previously, in February, China announced it would suspend all coal imports from North Korea to the end of the year in accordance with a UN Security Council resolution.

Meanwhile, the Chinese Foreign Ministry Wednesday warned Pyongyang to exercise restraint on any actions that could heighten tension on the Korean Peninsula in response to Pyongyang’s recent bellicose rhetoric.

Lu Kang, a spokesman of the ministry, said at a briefing, “China objects to any words that could heighten tensions since the current situation on the Korean Peninsula is highly complicated and sensitive.” Within China, there is talk about playing a key card to pressure North Korea - cutting off oil supplies to the Kim Jong-un regime.

In an editorial last week, the state-run tabloid Global Times said that if Pyongyang engaged in further provocations, Chinese society would approve of “severe restrictive measures that have never been seen before, such as restricting oil imports to the North.” On Monday, the paper again called for China to cut off most oil supplies to North Korea if there was another nuclear test.

In an editorial Tuesday, it pointed out that China and U.S. cooperation is increasing over the North Korean problem, and that the possibility of dragging out the North Korea issue indefinitely has “decreased drastically.”

“North Korea and China are a blood alliance, interdependent like no other,” said a South Korean government official Tuesday. “But the atmosphere in China, which has left a back door open to North Korea regardless of the international community’s sanctions, is changing little by little.”

North Korea depends on China for some 90 percent of its crude oil supply.

Lee Gee-dong, head of the Strategic Team on North Korea at the Seoul-based Institute for National Security Strategy, said, “Though it may not be immediate, if North Korea conducts a strategic provocation such as a sixth nuclear test or launches an intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM), Beijing will have to use the halting of oil exports card.” However, some analysts think the threat of cutting oil supplies to the North is mere rhetoric.

“In the 1990s, when the North Korea nuclear issue first escalated, China could have blocked oil then,” one former South Korean official said. “The oil supply card could be a performance by China to impress President Trump, but bears more watching.”
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Re: Feeling more nervous as of late...anyone else?

Postby fanny » Fri May 26, 2017 4:34 am

Even my husband is starting to feel it. Just the other day, he told me to go ahead and get things moving toward acquiring some livestock (cattle, sheep, etc.) after initially resisting the idea. He also started talking about adding additional chickens...meat birds as well as the layers we currently have. If even HE is starting to feel the urgency, then it's serious!
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Re: Feeling more nervous as of late...anyone else?

Postby ReadyMom » Fri May 26, 2017 5:26 am

Flying today ... so, yep.
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