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Re: DHS seizing private SUV's without prior notice to owner

Postby danthman114 » Thu Aug 07, 2014 1:06 pm

so wheres the rest of the story? why did they take it? was she involved in some sort of illegal activity? its best to not jump to conclusions which is a big problem with the united states. its people going off of how they feel rather than using their brain...
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Re: DHS seizing private SUV's without prior notice to owner

Postby CarlosB4 » Thu Aug 07, 2014 1:20 pm

danthman114 wrote:so wheres the rest of the story? why did they take it? was she involved in some sort of illegal activity? its best to not jump to conclusions which is a big problem with the united states. its people going off of how they feel rather than using their brain...


A few more articles on this story.
http://appalachianareanews.com/homeland ... gulations/
http://www.bizpacreview.com/2014/07/31/ ... aid-135470
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/38 ... ian-tuttle


As you can see it is real tough to get the 'full rest of the story' when DHS doesn't want to talk or give comments. :smartass:
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Re: DHS seizing private SUV's without prior notice to owner

Postby RayMac1963 » Thu Aug 07, 2014 1:28 pm

I can only think they want the guy who is doing the selling or fake docs, and taking the truck someway advance moving up the food chain in prosecution. As a buyer, they can't really prosecute you. All you get is screwed over because you lose your money.
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Re: DHS seizing private SUV's without prior notice to owner

Postby Blondie » Thu Aug 07, 2014 5:47 pm

LeeLynn wrote:What I don't get is why they don't go to the owner, confiscate the plate, and tell them they need to get it towed somewhere for any modifications to bring the vehicle compliant? Why is DHS involved in anything other than terrorist activities? Why isn't this EPA jurisdiction or local LEO?


Keep in mind that DHS is now an umbrella agency that includes Customs.

For those of us on the border w/Canada we're familiar with heading over the bridge, gambling, visiting, touristy stuff and coming home. Grandma will hop a casino bus, gamble in Windsor pick up some Canadian prescriptions (perfectly legal and usually cheaper) and come home at night.

As Ray said you get some "gray market" cars and other questionable kwap that manages to get across the border. One of those articles stated that the VIN numbers did not match the paperwork. And "she can't reach the internet seller"........probably the Nigerian Prince that sends out emails.

You take a chance because if an item.....Grandma's blood pressure medication or that $60k Rover gets ILLEGALLY imported......you lose it and your $.

My guess is that they're looking for the supplier, not the end user.
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Re: DHS seizing private SUV's without prior notice to owner

Postby mitchlblk » Thu Aug 07, 2014 8:41 pm

god bless the land of the free
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Re: DHS seizing private SUV's without prior notice to owner

Postby oldguy » Thu Aug 07, 2014 10:10 pm

I think there is a little drama here by the reporting paper. Police always wear bullet proof vests. Sealed documents to who. Were they sealed to the owner, police, who. Was the VIN # changed? THER HAS TO BE MORE TO THE STORY.
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Re: DHS seizing private SUV's without prior notice to owner

Postby arkieready » Thu Aug 07, 2014 11:44 pm

Arkansas doesn't inspect. I don't believe Oklahoma does, not sure. AR used to years ago, but quit. The local garages did the inspections. I used to joke that in order to pass, your brakes had to be good enough to not crash through the back wall of the shop.
Dang, hope mere age on a vehicle isn't a reason to shut her down! Aside from DH's jeep, nothing on my place is less than 24 years old.
Article sounds like sensationalism. But that's just me.
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Re: DHS seizing private SUV's without prior notice to owner

Postby CarlosB4 » Thu Aug 07, 2014 11:46 pm

oldguy wrote:I think there is a little drama here by the reporting paper. Police always wear bullet proof vests. Sealed documents to who. Were they sealed to the owner, police, who. Was the VIN # changed? THER HAS TO BE MORE TO THE STORY.


I know there is more to the story but DHS will not give any statements so it is really hard to get the full story. I have searched on Google, Bing, Yahoo and Lycos for this story and come up mostly with; small news articles, Fox News, one CNN article and loads of conspiracy theory articles. It really would help if a Law Enforcement Rep. would come out and explain to the taxpayers why exactly this is happening to some of them out there and an official request for public assistance in order to save on misuse of Tax payer funded resources of this sort doesn't seem too farfetched or out of the question now does it? Unless of course the other conspiracy theory is correct and they are purposely doing these high profile confiscations for these SUV's as a means to 'justify' the needs for funds for next years budget. It is all anyone’s guess right now.
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Re: DHS seizing private SUV's without prior notice to owner

Postby Bubba J » Fri Aug 08, 2014 2:00 pm

Blondie wrote:I'm only speculating here.

Yes, you can legally import a vehicle. It's done all the time. Once your vehicle reaches the US it SHOULD go thru normal Customs processes including paying appropriate duty/taxes on your purchase. It's how a new Benz, Beemer, etc reach the states for example. Or returning military coming home with an imported vehicle.

In order to get your vehicle plated/registered/get a title in your state you SHOULD take it to your local inspection station. Usually this is the state police. They give your vehicle the once over (it may not be DOT compliant) and then give you an okay to get the new title/plates. You take the paperwork to your state's title agency and get a new title and plates issued.

HOWEVER......if you've got cash and want to break a few rules, avoid paying taxes/duties, etc......then buy it on eBay. Someone will ship it to say Canada or Mexico and drive it across the border for you. Telling the nice Customs Inspector they are merely on vacation for 2 weeks.

Since the vehicles all appear to be similar....wouldn't surprise me in the least if all the sellers of these vehicles were one and the same. And the buyers thought they were getting a great deal. Avoiding a few loopholes. ;)


And then those same people cry to the media when their vehicles are seized. Actions have consequences.
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