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Re: 100 Items That Disappear First in a Disaster

Postby Alaska Rose » Mon Mar 15, 2010 2:35 am

I am already a target to the local folks, so if I share on a nice friendly basis with armed backup, I might be a bit safer. I don't plan on posting a sign on the driveway, it would just be handed out to folks at the door asking for food. The large family a couple of miles down the road from here haven't a clue except to already tell me they plan on coming here in an emergency. I have other plans.
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Re: 100 Items That Disappear First in a Disaster

Postby Whisper » Mon Mar 15, 2010 6:02 am

Alaska Rose wrote:I am already a target to the local folks, so if I share on a nice friendly basis with armed backup, I might be a bit safer. I don't plan on posting a sign on the driveway, it would just be handed out to folks at the door asking for food. The large family a couple of miles down the road from here haven't a clue except to already tell me they plan on coming here in an emergency. I have other plans.



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Re: 100 Items That Disappear First in a Disaster

Postby edea1976 » Mon Mar 15, 2010 2:45 pm

Alaska Rose- What is with this generation? Now I'm only 33 myself, but people anywhere near my age seems to just expect everything handed to them! My mother-in-law and I volunteered to pick green beans for a relative who had too many to harvest herself. We picked the beans, cleaned the beans, blanched and vacuum sealed and froze the beans. When someone asked us what we were doing we told her our big story :rolleyes: of how much we had just accomplished. Her response, "Wow, I'd take some of those!" WHAT? She never made any mention of helping, but she sure was ready for a hand-out!
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Re: 100 Items That Disappear First in a Disaster

Postby Alaska Rose » Tue Mar 16, 2010 2:33 am

Before my Mom moved up here, she owned a very nice little place near the Oregon coast and grew a huge garden and fruit trees and berries. She would offer stuff to anyone willing to come pick it themselves. Very seldom did anyone do that, but they all told her how much they would like to have if she brought it to them. She was in her late 70's to early 80's at the time.
People now have the entitlement mind set. It seems to start with no one giving their children actual chores or work to do and not actually parenting them, but being friends or buddies to the kids. The kids have friends and buddies their own age, they need parents to be parents. I will say that in towns or cities now it is harder to do that, because if a parent pops the little darling on the butt to get it to behave, they get turned in for child abuse.
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Re: 100 Items That Disappear First in a Disaster

Postby RavenNtwng » Thu Mar 18, 2010 7:08 am

Edea, we live in an area where farms are everywhere and one of our relatives had a field of turnips that they thought had frozen. We went out there to look at some land and saw the turnips were fine, so we asked if we could pick a few to take home. We ended up supplying our house, two friends, and the relatives with turnips. My kids were all over that field like white on rice and had a ball doing something for our relatives and friends. I have raised mine to help and they sure did that day. We are still eating those turnips and that was two months ago :)

AR: I make my kids do chores. Believe me, our house would be a lot worse if they didn't do them. There are 6 in our family and I am NOT going to do it alone. Besides, it is good training for when they are out on their own. We are looking to move onto some land soon and it will require a lot of work from everyone in the house to get it cleared and to get my garden and chicken space ready and they are all for it. This is from former city kids. Isn't it sad that times have changed so much that actually making your kids do something can be considered abuse?

One thing on the list that should be there is CONSIDERATION FOR OTHER PEOPLE because in a disaster there are sure a lot of folks out there that would just as soon shoot you than work for something and share it. Am I wrong?
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Re: 100 Items That Disappear First in a Disaster

Postby Alaska Rose » Fri Mar 19, 2010 3:15 am

No, you are not wrong. When I moved out here, my daughter and her teenaged town kids moved out here, also, a couple of years later. They lived in my shop until we could construct their home. My granddaughter was married there, 3 evenings ago. We designed and built the whole thing by ourselves. Those kids now have the confidence of knowing that they could construct a very nice home for themselves any time they needed one. My daughter and I are still working on finishing her house but they are living in it and enjoying it even more because of the work they have put into it. In town, we always had extras at almost every meal and some stayed waaaaay longer than we needed. One fellow lived in our basement for 14 years. No rent. My daughter has even managed to have extras living here with her, off and on, until they got back on their feet. They do have to help out around here when needed, but we manage to feed everyone. We live a very basic lifestyle, with very low income.
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Re: 100 Items That Disappear First in a Disaster

Postby Big Ray Ray » Sun May 30, 2010 10:09 pm

You can't cure meet with normal iodized salt. Morton's the salt company sells curing salt in bulk for cheep on their website.
http://www.mortonsalt.com/products/meatcuring/index.html
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Re: 100 Items That Disappear First in a Disaster

Postby Whisper » Sun May 30, 2010 10:41 pm

Big Ray Ray wrote:You can't cure meet with normal iodized salt. Morton's the salt company sells curing salt in bulk for cheep on their website.
http://www.mortonsalt.com/products/meatcuring/index.html


Is that the same for pelts?
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Re: 100 Items That Disappear First in a Disaster

Postby T Willy » Sun May 30, 2010 11:14 pm

I can identify with a lack of generators. When the ice storm hit KY they flew off the shelves in hours! My family had to have a good friend drive one from out of state!
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Re: 100 Items That Disappear First in a Disaster

Postby Big Ray Ray » Mon May 31, 2010 12:23 am

Whisper wrote:
Big Ray Ray wrote:You can't cure meet with normal iodized salt. Morton's the salt company sells curing salt in bulk for cheep on their website.
http://www.mortonsalt.com/products/meatcuring/index.html


Is that the same for pelts?


Don't know.
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Re: 100 Items That Disappear First in a Disaster

Postby Alaska Rose » Mon May 31, 2010 1:12 am

Yes, it is the same for pelts or even making pickles. Do not use iodized salt. It turns pickles mushy,usually, and will slip hair on a pelt. It isn't good for curing meat or fish. Plain salt, or pickling salt or even rock salt are all better to have on hand for these purposes. Rock salt being the least easily used unless crushed to a finer texture.
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Re: 100 Items That Disappear First in a Disaster

Postby Whisper » Mon May 31, 2010 8:29 am

Thanks Rose. It's funny, when Big Ray Ray wrote "Don't know," I immediately thought, I bet Rose would know. Then I scrolled down to see :smartass: Rose.
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Re: 100 Items That Disappear First in a Disaster

Postby Alaska Rose » Tue Jun 01, 2010 2:30 am

LOL, thanks. Have been a taxidermist since I was 12 and have helped butcher, cure and can all my life. Hope I learned something about it along the way.
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Re: 100 Items That Disappear First in a Disaster

Postby Lynette » Sun Jun 13, 2010 10:54 pm

Whisper wrote:
Alaska Rose wrote:I wish more were aware, also. I am making up buckets that I will try to hand out to folks in need, when it becomes a problem. I am trying to put some basic items in it, that will sustain them for about a month. Beans, rice, salt, a kettle, matches, toilet paper, since most haven't a clue, and a printed handout sheet on how to use the stuff and maybe get by. Oh yes, also a towel. (Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy)



Rose, won't that be dangerous by making you a target?

IE:
Hey Todd! Look that gal over there is giving away free food. She must be loaded with the stuff. We'll have to see what else she has and come back when everyone is gone. :gunshooting:


All that I am saying is, please be extremely careful. :gunsmile: And keep saying, this is all I have left... I split it in half.



I couldn't help but comment here, because this is one of my biggest problems. If/When an emergency happens, we will have to depend on one another, period. But, on the other hand, we have to keep "secret" what "we" have. Bartering in a time of need, is fine. I have plenty of barter (food, ammo, grains, water, etc.), but "hand-outs" I don't know. You will obviously be a huge target, but the human side would want to help. Which brings up another subject.

On a very large scale... we live in a society of hand-outs which the government calls entitlements. Some people expect hand-outs... from government, neighbors, friends, church, or family that had enough sense to actually think outside the box. Well, except the government, I think they want a dependent nation and that's what they are getting (minus the preppers in the world). Of course, a dependent nation will follow orders, so naturally they are pressing for a dependent nation. This is another soap box of mine.

I don't intend on being a survivalist by definition, I intend on being a prepper. Prepping only makes sense to me. I could not substain in the woods, the hubby could though... guess I need to stay married!

Seriously, how do we combat the problem of trust. How do preppers learn to trust one another and make it work in case of emergency? And secondly, how and are we all capable of defending ourselves against the dependent society, hands out, governmental caused people that our paths will cross with in a crisis situation?

I'm really open to all ideas because this crosses my mind daily. Thanks!
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Re: 100 Items That Disappear First in a Disaster

Postby Alaska Rose » Mon Jun 14, 2010 2:11 am

I think most of the folks here on this forum do trust each other to quite a point or they wouldn't even list what State they live in. Most of us are willing to help those that also help themselves, in learning how to do different things needing done. I know I am not willing to help someone that expects me to totally support/care for them. I have found too many people like that and am a bit jaundiced about some ex friends and one ex husband, lol. One more reason I do a lot better living WAAAAY out in the boonies.
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