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I saw someone mention something along the lines of keeping the stuff inside your bag dry. I repacked my bag a little while back after giving it more thought because of the chance of running into water I wouldnt be able to make it across without swimming through.
I repacked everything into those vacuum space saver bags. Not the small ones you use for vacuum sealing meats and stuff for your fridge, but the big ones you would use for blankets, etc. Theyre those ones with a massive "zipper" sort of thing on top and a one way valve somewhere in the middle of the bag that you would put a vacuum cleaner hose on top to suck out the air. That, or you could just use your lungs to suck out some of the air too. I put stuff inside those bags that I would much rather not get wet. Stuff like different clothes, toilet paper and the like.
In my (current) bag, its got two pretty big areas to put stuff in. On the top pouch, the bag there has stuff like socks, boxers, neck warmer/man scarf, light weight clothes (under armour type stuff) and then in the bottom one Ive got things like those military issue gore tex jacket and pants, toilet paper, pair of jeans, thicker shirt. On the sides of my bag Ive also got a couple of those big, wide mouth water bottles with stuff inside too.
Reason for putting all that stuff in bags/containers like that is on the off chance that Id have to swim through a river or something along those lines and it could float, allowing me to pull it behind me. That, and in case it rains/snows or if I fall into some water. Ive also a few MRE's in the bag too. Just about anything that can have some sort of trapped air in it to add any bit of buoyancy to my bag, but also put stuff in it that I'd need (matches, powerbar, 5hr energy shots)
Oh! One thing I forgot to add was more of a question for anyone.. How would you/yall suggest keeping a few hundred rounds/shells (total) dry and afloat while crossing say a river? The only thing I can think of is finding something to inflate and attach to my bag with the rounds in it. Thoughts/Suggestions?
An emergency due to lack of planning on your part, does not constitute an emergency for me.
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send the Marmot bag back to them for cleaning and re-lofting. They have a lifetime guarantee.... Or ship it to me!I'd love another Marmot down bag.
I ran across Garvey's book on hiking the AT this morning and sat dow for a bit and read parts of it. I got this book back in my younger days when I was hiking sections of the AT. He mentions in the section on packs that he recomends 25-35 pounds average. His pack started out at 43 pounds a few times because of extra food and gear, and 52 pounds for the last 10 days because it was a 10 day section, colder and he wanted some additional confort items and food and intended to hike a bit slower anyway.
I would guess after 5 months on the trail your body is either well broken in, or broken, one of the two.
Also remember the saying "The more you know, the less you need".
I disagree with that statement a little. It means you can use what you find. But we need what we need. That doesn't change. I know I'm being picky, but I would say the more you know the less you need to bring with you. Slight, but important, difference.
It means the less "stuff" you need. However as I said in another thread to reject some "stuff" just because you have primitive skills may also be a mistake.
Back in the day my RUCK weighed 60 to 70 pounds , Today my Daypack weigh's 35-40 top's and i go easly 15 miles a day if needed.... I do a lot of hiking/hunting just to keep in shape snow shoeing during the winter months , Our motto use to be Travel light freeze at night That aint gonna happen with me if i can avoid it and i do at all cost i like being comfortable when im out sneakin & peeking ....
do some backpacking, you'll figure out what you need and what is extra fluff, you will also figure out the best ways to pack your bag from field experience. there is no easy formula to say what works best, you need to be able to carry it easily and not lose too much agility, a bag with everything you need that causes you to roll your ankle isn't doing you any good
I have three main packs that I would consider "carry-on" or a pack I could grab if need be and still be able to shoot n move . One is an E&E pack that holds any vital electronics kit, typically my DSLR, Solar Chargers, spare Quad-Band GSM Phone (Old iPhone 5 currently) as well as a Radio and some other goodies to maintain voice contact and any other electronic needs. fully loaded it weighs in at about 12lbs if I toss my macbook air in it.
Also my wife and I both have Kifaru "Spike Camp" packs that hold ammo as well as the normal "bug out" kit essentials like any vital paperwork copies of passports and our marriage papers and things like that as well as 3 changes of clothing and spare shoes and some food. probably weighs 40lbs.
last pack is a standard SO Trauma Kit. Pretty much any and everything I have ever needed or used during an operation has been put in it to include IV's and the only thing missing is blood for us. All weighed down it is at 35lbs.
Our "Game Plan" always has us relying heavily on our vehicles so carrying large loads on our backs is not in the cards (we hope) especially since we have a daughter and dogs to handle as well.
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Use a pull cart if BOVs get knocked out of service...You can take alot more gear and you can ditch it if you need to find cover fast. The pack you do carry can be assault gear with this setup. It will also allow you to travel alot further on foot without all the extra weight on your back. If everyone in your group does this as a backup travel plan you can take literally a few tons of gear with 1500 lbs capable carts with pneumatic wheels. I have pulled a few hundred pounds over the beach and it really wasn't that tough to pull but you get more than 300 lbs in sand and you will get stuck. over standard ground (not beach) they pull really nice.
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