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Re: The off grid survival cabin

Postby Alaska Rose » Wed Mar 17, 2010 2:41 am

They probably are, in as much as bears are family Ursidae and dogs are family Canidae, both considered order of carnivores. Bears' closest related to Pinnipeds, whatever they are. Just remember if you are not around the wussy bears in Lower 48, that have been thinned out by all the aggressive ones being killed off for a couple hundred years to be a bit more careful. The ones up here may never have seen a human at all, so are not afraid or even slightly intimidated by humans. To them, we are just a pale imitation of them, without fur and not enough sense to not show our teeth or look them in the eye. Both are signs of aggression to a bear or dog, for that matter. Our continuing to stand on our hind legs while looking at them, is also usually construed as aggression. If you must stand and look at one, try to make yourself look as wide as possible, and having a sheet or blanket over your shoulders while out picking berries is as good as anything for protection. Grab the top corners and hold your arms out, to make it seem that you are very large indeed. Bears don't have extremely sharp eyesight, but I think it is better than most people think it is. They can detect any small movement quite well. Their sense of smell is very well developed and they can smell a food scent from great distances.
A skinned black bear looks extremely human, a skinned grizzly looks like a human on steroids. I did cure some thieves of stealing from the freezer outdoors, by keeping the skinned feet and paws in there, wrapped in clear plastic and labeled with the name of the hunter I was cleaning the bones for. The thief evidently thought they were the remains of the persons named on the labels. I was able to convince the Trooper it was bear remains, but it didn't hurt my reputation around here for being someone to be careful of. I did ask the Trooper to ask the person how they knew what was in my freezer.
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Re: The off grid survival cabin

Postby Alaska Rose » Sat May 08, 2010 3:26 am

My little underground log cabin has been broken into and ransacked sometime this Spring. What they couldn't steal, they destroyed. I think they were looking for the guns and ammo that used to be stored there, but my grandson had removed them all last Fall.

Hmm, was going to add pictures, but can't find the way to do that, now. Img doesn't do anything, and neither does Album.
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Re: The off grid survival cabin

Postby jhuk05 » Sat May 08, 2010 4:02 am

Rose... You crack me up ! I will be watching for you on the next episode of "Alaska State Troopers" :rofl:
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Re: The off grid survival cabin

Postby Whisper » Sat May 08, 2010 8:11 am

Rose, it infuriates me than a thief broke into your cabin to not only steal but to cause destruction. I wish I could do something about it. My family was robbed growing up so I know how you feel. I'd like to impale the little Bas.....! :ninja: And then call the bears in!
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Re: The off grid survival cabin

Postby Alaska Rose » Sun May 09, 2010 1:26 am

Well, they better hope the Troopers catch them before my grandson or I do, LOL.
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Re: The off grid survival cabin

Postby rjburk » Thu Oct 04, 2012 7:28 pm

This is kinda slightly off topic, but this thread made me think......has anyone ever thought about building a small underground cabin in say a national Forest area ? even though it would not be legal.....to use as a possible temporary bug out location ? naturally it would have to be off the normal beaten path that hunters, campers and hikers normally use. Has anyone thought about using state or federal property as a bug out location ? thoughts ?
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Re: The off grid survival cabin

Postby Whisper » Thu Oct 04, 2012 8:30 pm

Please don't post about something illegal. As far as state parks go, see the link below.

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Re: The off grid survival cabin

Postby Alaska Rose » Fri Oct 05, 2012 12:20 am

This State is huge with a lot of it stil not surveyed, even. But if anyone thinks they can build a small off grid dwelling of any sort out in the Wilds of it, think again. So anywhere in the Lower 48 would be next to impossible.
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Re: The off grid survival cabin

Postby rjburk » Fri Oct 05, 2012 5:23 pm

What would stop you from it ? there are places in WV that you could do this easily.....I'm saying something 8x8 or so just as a kinda safe house.....temporary....with majority underground....
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Re: The off grid survival cabin

Postby Alaska Rose » Fri Oct 05, 2012 11:13 pm

Well, our whole state is used as military training grounds with all the new and improved heat detection sensors and such, so they find a souce of body heat where they don't expect it, and they go investigate. As soon as I built here, they were hovering over this place for months, checking each new thing that was done. Trappers on their traplines way out miles from nowhere get targeted as though they were the enemy and looked over pretty good.
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Re: The off grid survival cabin

Postby rjburk » Sat Oct 06, 2012 7:56 am

Thermal equipment and weapon sights have changed the game for sure.....the thermal scopes we used in AStan make hunting at night very easy....there are tricks to deceive them.....makes me wonder why they have not used thermal to find the guy in Utah who has been running loose for 5 yrs breaking into remote cabins and stealing......
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Re: The off grid survival cabin

Postby Alaska Rose » Sat Oct 06, 2012 11:34 pm

Yeah, I read about him and saw some photos game cameras set around those cabins had taken. I don't think they do the war games quite to the extent down there that they do up here. We end up with military from other countries all over the place up here. It can be a bit scarey sometimes and not sure how to respond to it. One old miner up north of here had his entire crew moon the hovering helicopters, including his 400 pound self.
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Re: The off grid survival cabin

Postby rjburk » Sun Oct 07, 2012 9:47 am

They have the men and equipment in the lower 48 too.....I think after Ruby Ridge and Waco the feds walk softly now......They did not go after Eric Rudolph after he went to the Carolina Hills......to much of a chance for bad press....I think they will wait till the Utah guy gets nabbed like rudolph did....pushing him could cause some collateral damage and the bad press.....and there is not many 100k a year agents who would try and find him since Feds don't like to be shot either.....
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Re: The off grid survival cabin

Postby Alaska Rose » Mon Oct 08, 2012 12:47 am

True and yes, you have to means down there to find anyone. Up here, they just really don't care all that much and list folks that live out where I do as loony and tinfoil hat folks. Right now there are troops and planes from Russia and several other countries training here. It would be interesting to watch, except they seem to watch back, lol.
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Re: The off grid survival cabin

Postby Ghost Rider » Thu Feb 28, 2013 6:44 pm

I met a German officer stationed in the US a while back. I was completely shocked when he told me that after he was done with the German Army he was going to enlist in the US Army and get US citizenship for his service to the US. I subsequently discovered that DOD does in fact have programs to recruit foreign nationals in exchange for citizenship. The extent of integration between NATO military forces is disturbing. I like the idea of alliance but not integration.
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