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Hiding food etc.

Postby char » Sun Apr 15, 2012 3:46 pm

I have been reading that the govt can confiscate stuff when shtf. Are there any ideas for hiding food instead of keeping it in the basement? I cant dig a cache. I also read that if you buy a lot of food or ammo etc it could raise flags. So if I want to buy lots of freeze dried food should i go the food co. and buy with cash. Is buying large amounts online safe? I want to start stocking up but is it safe? Thanks
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Re: Hiding food etc.

Postby MrDanB » Sun Apr 15, 2012 4:50 pm

Char,
I am by no means the expert on what the government thinks of prepping or preparedness in general. It is always better to error on the side of caution though. I DO feel that it's always best to buy with cash. That way, no paper trail... As for how to stock up, but not in your basement or under the bed etc. You always have options! There is probably a mini storage facility near you. I would seriously check into one of the smaller sized units they have. Go get the best lock you can find and keep some amount of your preps in that. Most of these storage places have fencing, lights etc for added security. If that isn't an option for you, try making the most of your closet space, pantry, cabinets etc. Tupperware type containers can be had at thrift stores cheap (or dollar stores). If you buy a large lot online, you will certainly have to pay with credit card. I would suggest looking into the LDS church cannery www.providentliving.org I am not affiliated with them, but I DO go to their cannery locally and buy preps. Another place would be Winco foods/Win Dixie in the south. They carry larger sizes of most staples you would need. Sam's Club or Costco stores carry bulk at reasonable prices too. If none of those work, many of the WalMart's carry #10 cans of food now! :)
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Re: Hiding food etc.

Postby Prepared_InTexas » Sun Apr 15, 2012 5:05 pm

viewtopic.php?f=326&t=22889&p=201161&hilit=executive+order#p201161

This link may help you, Char. About half-way down, Ready Mom posted some additional links. I am functionally illiterate when it comes to politics, thinking we simply vote for the lesser of two evils, but I think what it boils down to, is this Executive Order has been around since at least the 1950's, and every once in a while, a sitting President pulls it out, re-words it, and tries to sneak in some new things that could be very ominous under the right circumstances. It's good to know what COULD happen, but it's not going to change the way I prep, other than to make me more cautious.
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Re: Hiding food etc.

Postby kr105 » Sun Apr 15, 2012 5:43 pm

My biggest concern is not the federal gov., but the local gov in combination with the jolly/ volley CERT teams. A little power goes a long ways.

1. Don't talk about your preps to anyone. Loose lips sinks ships. People talk and love to gossip.

2. Don't put all your eggs in one basket. Separate your preps. Store some at another location if that is feasible.

3. Hide them in plain sight if possible. If the pantry police come calling, they are going to take unopened packages to avoid the risk of contamination. Open those bags of rice and transfer the contents into clean soda bottles.

4. Again if the pantry police come raiding, you might want to tell them that you have hepatitis c and the food could be contaminated since you sneeZed on it. (and you'd feel just horrible if someone caught it from you. :shock:

5. Lastly, consider volunteering with the certs -- they won't raid one of their own.
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Re: Hiding food etc.

Postby daaswampman » Sun Apr 15, 2012 6:09 pm

A large order will draw attention that is not wanted. When the UPS driver commented it was my last large order. My real concern is theft. It is best not to keep all your Prepp in one area, but do not forget that food needs a proper storage area. All food needs to be kept cool and dry or the shelf life will be greatly reduced. DaaSwampman
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Re: Hiding food etc.

Postby BronwynRose » Sun Apr 15, 2012 6:23 pm

Govt aside, hiding food from relatives and nosy neighbors might be necessary some times. Areas that I've thought about but haven't utilized yet are;
under the kitchen cabinets- remove kick plate
behind the washing machine- can fit 24-36 cans back there
under couch
under easy chair
behind TV in entertainment unit
behind books on book shelf
In intake register vent
In decorative tins

It's not always the govt we need to be aware of. All it takes is for your kids friend to tell their parents or a relative to see and make that comment we all dread "I know where I'm coming in case of an emergency"
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Re: Hiding food etc.

Postby daaswampman » Fri Apr 20, 2012 10:03 pm

"I know where I'm coming in case of an emergency"

And the best answer for that? Smile and say - good, how else will I have fresh meat and live target practice. DaaSwampman
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Re: Hiding food etc.

Postby BronwynRose » Sat Apr 28, 2012 9:20 am

Yep. or
don't bother, we won't be here.
Thanks for the warning.
Don't come empty handed. Bring at least 6 months food and water with you or don't show up.

Any other come backs?
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Re: Hiding food etc.

Postby Everyman » Sat Apr 28, 2012 10:25 am

BronwynRose wrote:Yep. or
don't bother, we won't be here.
Thanks for the warning.
Don't come empty handed. Bring at least 6 months food and water with you or don't show up.

Any other come backs?


How about:

"Thank you for saying that. Now that I know you are coming to rob me I am justified in shooting you on sight." "I'll be sure to put your name on the list of potential looters I'm sending the to the Sheriff of the people who have threatened me and that I may have to shoot to protect myself and property."
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Re: Hiding food etc.

Postby Halyna » Wed Jun 20, 2012 1:29 pm

Couple more ideas....someone said behind the couch, I put stuff inside the couch. Pulled up the fabric in the back, stuffed it and stamp,Ed it shut.
Attic is ok as long as it is labelled Christmas decor.
Always relabel boxes...like old kids clothes, or for Goodwill, or office gadgets.
Don't forget garage and label it garden tools.
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Re: Hiding food etc.

Postby anita » Wed Jun 20, 2012 3:27 pm

Don't forget how hot storage units or attics can get. They aren't the best places to store food.
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Re: Hiding food etc.

Postby Senah » Wed Jun 20, 2012 9:54 pm

char wrote:I have been reading that the govt can confiscate stuff when shtf. Are there any ideas for hiding food instead of keeping it in the basement? I cant dig a cache. I also read that if you buy a lot of food or ammo etc it could raise flags. So if I want to buy lots of freeze dried food should i go the food co. and buy with cash. Is buying large amounts online safe? I want to start stocking up but is it safe? Thanks


If you are referring to the urban myth that the patriot act included something about not being able to store more than 7 days of food or that food will be confiscated by the government in times of turmoil, this isn't true. It was said on a tv show about prepping, but was inaccurate. Here is a link to the document if you are interested:

http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/PLAW-107publ56/pdf/PLAW-107publ56.pdf

In fact, at FEMAs prepare site, which has lots of good check lists about what to plan for and how to prep your home for different types of emergencies, they say to keep AT LEAST 3 days of food in the home.

http://www.ready.gov/food

I think the opposite of what is going around is really what is happening - after Katrina and the floods in the NE, the government realized they don't have the manpower and coordination at this time to help everyone immediately during a disaster, and are trying to urge people to take care of themselves for up to a week. But hey, as people on APN already know - we should be able to do that anyhow!


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Re: Hiding food etc.

Postby kr105 » Sat Jun 23, 2012 5:34 pm

What the executive order does allow is the "government" to acquire resources needed (including food.). While I don't expect to see the National Guard going door to door and checking your kitchen shelves, you can get the occ. Local yokel / jolly volley who goes a little power hungry and THAT is my biggest concern. A few decades ago I rode EMS and every squad seemed to have one power mad jerk on the unit (Mr. I Built This Squad House.)

Remember post Katrina when teams went door to door checking and it was usually a cert member with a cop (who was often from out of state, there to help out, but unfamiliar with the local laws.) In one ward, they started collecting legal firearms. It could happen again.
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