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Re: Idaho Falls Preppers

Postby Camoginger » Sun Apr 01, 2012 3:08 pm

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Re: Idaho Falls Preppers

Postby Camoginger » Fri Jun 01, 2012 5:52 pm

LOOKING TO START A MEETUP THIS YEAR, I WOULD LIKE TOMSTART BUILDING A GOOD TRUSTING COMMUNITY HERE IN IF.....IDEAS.?
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Re: Idaho Falls Preppers

Postby natimuss » Sat Aug 04, 2012 11:30 pm

I'm in.
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Re: Idaho Falls Preppers

Postby Wingless » Fri Oct 19, 2012 3:36 pm

Okay folks lets see if we can do something here. I have been prepping for a number of years and have been feeling rather isolated due to distance from like minded people here in S.E. Idaho.

I have been a moderator at a different forum for about 5 years. We have had a number of succesful yearly 'gatherings' with one member coming from as far away as Illinois. Unfortunately that forum is slowly dying, I feel because of the distance between members.

I see some talk here about a meetup but can't tell if anything was done.

I am willing to meet up with anyone in the area at IHOP in Idaho Falls on a Mon or Teu evening. I am willing to put $100 or so down on the tab for a meal (in case more than 5 people show up). I am willing to travel to Pokey for the one member from there. This will just be a start, I'm not sure I want to give out a lot of info about myself yet.

I work in healtcare. I am healthy middle aged, 5ft 8in 160lbs, NOT MEDICATED. Married with adult children whom we homeschooled. Ex military, navy GMM3. Live on small acreage, pasture, goats, chickens. Jack of many trades, adept at some. Science fiction, and how to books.

It's getting late....winter is coming.
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Re: Idaho Falls Preppers

Postby Heath » Fri Oct 19, 2012 3:46 pm

I'd be happy to meet up at some point. We don't even need to eat, I'd be happy with a cup of coffee!
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Re: Idaho Falls Preppers

Postby idmedic » Fri Oct 19, 2012 8:11 pm

I'm available to meet. I can certainly see the benefit in mutual training and assistance. Hunting will keep me busy for a little while, but if it's on the calendar, I can usually make it.
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Re: Idaho Falls Preppers

Postby Wingless » Sat Oct 20, 2012 5:31 am

My wife thinks I am crazy at times and wonders why I want to network with people. She has become kind of fed up with the complications that groups seem to inspire. She is totally on board with preparedness but is very hesitant to get involved with new people because of some past experiences. She has participated in some of the yearly gatherings with the group I mentioned earlier and enjoyed herself. We were not able to go this year but as I also mentioned that forum is slowly dying and there were only three people there down from a peak of about 20 people just 4 years ago.

I am interested in ideas, concepts, planning, speculation on current and possible future events as well as 'mutual training and assistance'.
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Re: Idaho Falls Preppers

Postby Wingless » Sun Oct 21, 2012 5:03 pm

Is this Teusday evening at IHOP too soon? I can be there at anytime 5pm or later. Or a week from Teusday/Monday, etc.

The following is a subject about interacting with new people that I have found to be helpful and fairly accurate.
I try to follow this rule of thumb due to past experiences and expect others to apply it to me as well. Thus one of the reasons I am reluctant to give out too much about myself too soon as I want the ability to 'pull away' if things get incompatible or twitchy.

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Beware the Lunatic Fringe
http://www.alpharubicon.com/lunaticfringe.htm
By: Warlord
13 November 2006
While Preparedness is currently "in Style", it's always had a fringe element attached to it that has long given "Preparedness Minded People" (incorrectly labeled as "Survivalists") a bad name, a bad rap, and a bad rep.

No matter how mainstream Disaster Preparedness, becomes, the lunatic fringe that gave "Survivalism" a bad name to start with is still out there.

As I have preached for Years: "Preparedness" and "Survivalism" seem to be the same thing; They aren't, even though most people assume that they are... and "Survivalism" seems to be an umbrella idea/label that some people call themselves because they can't define what they Really are any closer... They "need a reason" to justify having some Guns, and/or some equipment [Most just want to play Army], "so they Must be a Survivalist, and therefore also "Preparedness Minded".. (yeah, I'm a Survivalist, So I'm one of the "Preparedness Minded People", that's the ticket ".. uhhhh NOT!
They're the lunatic fringe; Still outcast from any normal society.. trying to give their Hobbies justification.

"They Think", "It seems logical that ____".. you almost NEVER hear them say, "I Actually Did This and here's my results and pictures and proof, let's see how it compares to Your results".

As one, uhh, person, on another Forum said,
"When you bugging out, If you have to painstakingly hack your way with a machete, you going the right direction" (SIC)..
They've never Actually done this or they would have looked back and thought "I'm leaving a trail for others to follow"... If you've read articles here, you've read the stories from members that Swore their retreats were "Hidden".. one found out his retreat was used as a "Position marker" on Aircraft maps to help find the local Airfield's runway... another got a tax bill when DEA people, looking for drugs via Helicopter in the "remote area", saw the retreat and turned the info over to the state for further investigation since it wasn't on their tax maps (many States combine the "Air Drug Searches" with tax searches and other State/County matters). "There is no such thing as *Remote* in the lower 48 any more".. it's a fiction for the ignorant to believe... But they are Still planning to "Head for the remote hills with a Bug out Bag" (Oh, they'll change their tune in time.. they always do once We've proven the fact, and then they'll swear it was Their idea in the first place

...As I have said in other articles, A Lot of the Lunatic fringe just can't make it in society and want The Stuff To Hit The Fan because they think that by having a few supplies, and some guns, they can be "Important" or "a Leader" or "People will quit making fun of them (maybe even do some bowing and scraping)" if Society will just hurry up and collapse...
Folks, That's Lunacy!! If you have to hope for the system to be torn down to below your level before you feel good about yourself.. you need a little professional help.. And (again, As I have said for Years) "Powerful people are powerful by nature".. if you put them in a disaster, or on a desert Island with 20 people, they will Still gain power... they will gain power in Any environment... it's simply in their nature... the setting is incidental, whether we consider these people good or bad.

The Guy that can't get the respect he feels he deserves Right Now, is not going to get that respect After TSHTF either. That's a proven fact... History, and countless disasters, proves this out time after time.

Sadly, There are a lot of these people that Want to see society torn down so that They can be "better off" finally. They feel "cheated" in life, they feel like someone is holding them back (someone is.. *themselves*!)

"Three Monthers" or "90 Day-ers"
It's been said that most "fringe personalities" can put up a good act for about 3 months. Over 13+ years as a webmaster, I've found this to be true to the point of being scary. People you Would Not want to share a shelter with seem to suddenly snap within a few days of the "Three Month Mark".

For the first Month or two, they often seem like the Ideal team mate, your best friend, "gonna be friends for life", and then suddenly, at about that three month mark, they seem to just lose their minds. They imagine a grudge, and then do everything their small minds can come up with to "Pay you back" (Pay You back because They can't function in society?). Some Psychologists say this happens in Any setting; Romance, Friendships, etc.. not just on the internet.

When this happens in the Rubicon, we can simply boot them.. they usually scurry off to other sites and bad mouth us, and seek company with others that have been booted from our site, or other reputable sites (usually for the same reason, they can't keep up the act of being "normal" for more than three months... one such "gentleman" has now been kicked out of Five organizations, and is Still out there spreading his craziness.. He changes his name and ISP and spends a small fortune trying to sneak back into sites he's been banned from)... but within three months, guess what? Amazingly, They are then at each other's throats (I know, surprising, huh? ! It's an amazing thing to watch... and of course, it's Never their fault, there's a vast conspiracy against them... However, many suddenly start spouting how "Christian they are", and how "Non Violent", and how they "wish everyone well", all the while they are gibbering in their closets and trying to think of ways to pay back imaginary sleights... They Always pop at every site they go to.. always, without exception.

Many "Newer Webmasters" welcome these people in, hoping to "grow their sites", until the malcontents pop and do something stupid.. like the member that arm robbed a convenience store, or the member of another site that Killed his wife and Girl Friend.. the Web sites that "Took them in" are no longer in existence, Even though Many webmasters had tried (in vain) to warn them about these unstable people... Point being, no matter what site you join, Always make sure it is an older, reputable site that doesn't put up with BS. Older sites have the experience needed to weed out the wack-jobs. This is not to say there aren't some good "younger" sites, there are, but they are the exception, not the rule (Most Quality sites simply Will Not put up with BS, so it's easy to identify the better sites, young or old).

The scary part is, these people will be out there during a disaster, helping out, being your "friend".. until that infamous three month mark hits and you see "The real" them. By Then it's too late for You.

It's why We screen our members so heavily, and why None of the reputable sites allow BS on their sites. It's why it's good to get to know the people you may need to trust over a Longer period of time than just a few months (Most Rubicon members have known each other Many years).. In a long term Disaster, You Do Not want to have to trust your life to "People you've just met".. because in a random group of people, several of them will statistically turn out to be "three monthers".. Then You're in trouble... It's why Reputable organizations are the safest way to meet people.. most people are already known, have been met by Many other people, etc.

When the occasional deviant does pop, we make a note of their names and usually webmasters share this information, to protect You, Our Quality Members. If they've "popped" at one place, they almost always Pop at the next place they try to call "home on the net" (I can see you webmasters nodding your heads now, yes, we know them well).

You Need to get to know the people you can trust Now so that you have as much time and experience with them as possible before you may have to depend on them. It's one reason why the reputable preparedness sites (the ones that have been around for years and that won't put up with crap and craziness) are an Ideal way to Really get to know other people over Long periods of time... They've usually weeded out "The Crazies".

Keep in mind that the person that's constantly being booted from site after site, or "paying people back" for imagined slights (Or things They have done to themselves) will be a problem for You if you get involved with them. Getting to know people Long Term, in a controlled setting, is about the surest way Not to get involved with the lunatic fringes. And when you see these people constantly Moaning about being booted from various sites, or bad mouthing other people constantly, Or bragging about "paying people back" or "Getting even", it's a safe bet, they're a "Three monther". BEWARE.

"The person that is nice to you, but rude to the waiter, is Not a nice person"

How's that Country song go? "After 5 strikes, it just Might be You"

".. A word to the wise...."
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Re: Idaho Falls Preppers

Postby usmc0317 » Fri Nov 02, 2012 1:12 am

Were in
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Re: Idaho Falls Preppers

Postby Wingless » Mon Nov 05, 2012 8:53 am

I will be at IHOP 6pm Teu 13th wearing a mossy oak baseball cap.

I have an interesting true story about a guy who had an encounter with MIBs when he arranged his first gathering of like minded folks from the internet.
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Re: Idaho Falls Preppers

Postby Wingless » Tue Nov 13, 2012 10:36 pm

Had a nice omelett, saw a few people come in with kids, left just after 7.

This part of the forum is barely breathing. I'll be moving on and wont be checking in here. If someone sends me a message it should notify me by email (for possible future events).
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Re: Idaho Falls Preppers

Postby cbrown1013 » Tue Mar 26, 2013 7:48 pm

Definiteley interested in meeting up with some likeminded folks. I am scared about the future for me and my 3 young children. Need some help with this. Ya theres the internet but meetin real people is better to make real connections
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Re: Idaho Falls Preppers

Postby 1SleepingGiant » Fri May 17, 2013 11:05 pm

Hi all, I'm a newbie from the Pocatello area. I'd also like to meet up with like-minded people sometime...I'm always looking to learn and share...
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Re: Idaho Falls Preppers

Postby warnerve101 » Sun Jan 11, 2015 2:48 am

This is the most recent Idaho Falls post and its dead, lets wake it up.
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Re: Idaho Falls Preppers

Postby Shootist » Mon Oct 03, 2016 11:17 pm

The problem with wide spread groups (not small towns or neighborhoods) is that when things do go south, most are too far away from each other to be of any help. Also as was mentioned, trust issues. Meeting to get to know those in your county informally is a good way to exchange ideas, but too much info can also be a bad thing.
Ideally, if everyone were to get Ham Radio equipment, it would enable us to give warnings of groups heading our way and organized those closest to gather to form defense. The down side would be giving out your call sign would also give anyone your location via the internet.
If things go south, no one is going to use official call signs. But knowing unofficial call signs would help us to know who we were talking to (once the rule of law was gone).
I think things are dead because so many do have preps and keep quiet about them. I know a lot of my neighbors are preppers, but little is said by most.
If enough want to have informal meetings, I'd be in. When the time comes, it will be those close by who you will have to work with. Someone from I.F will be of little use to someone in I.P. except to pass info via the air waves.
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