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Re: EMP-Korea Concerns & Discussions #2 (May 2017)

Postby rickdun » Sat May 13, 2017 7:01 pm

theoutback wrote:Another day, another missile. :yawn:

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-north ... SKBN1890UO


Ya, saw that on the news, they test fired that missile one hour after a North Korean diplomat said they would consider meeting with the U.S. if the conditions were right.

The little fat boy may meet his maker sooner they he thinks. :nuke:
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Re: EMP-Korea Concerns & Discussions #2 (May 2017)

Postby Illini Warrior » Sat May 13, 2017 8:15 pm

reports circulating from reliable DC sources are indicating that there will some kind of immediate activity - nothing concrete as of yet ....
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Re: EMP-Korea Concerns & Discussions #2 (May 2017)

Postby ReadyMom » Sat May 13, 2017 11:21 pm

North Korea launches missile; launch being assessed
http://abcnews.go.com/International/nor ... d=47395655

North Korea launched a missile today, a U.S. official said, confirming reports in South Korean media.

A U.S. official said the missile landed in the Sea of Japan after being launched from western North Korea. The type of missile launched today is still being assessed.

According to U.S. Pacific Command, the missile was launched near Kusung and landed in the Sea of Japan.

The type of missile is being assessed, but the flight was not consistent with an intercontinental ballistic missile, according to a statement from U.S. PACOM spokesman Major Rob Shuford.

The North American Aerospace Defense Command (NORAD) determined the missile launch from North Korea did not pose a threat to North America, the statement said.

A statement released late Saturday night by the White House said President Trump was "briefed on the latest missile test by North Korea."

The statement also acknowledged the missile test's close proximity to Russia: "With the missile impacting so close to Russian soil –- in fact, closer to Russia than to Japan –- the President cannot imagine that Russia is pleased."

It continued, "North Korea has been a flagrant menace for far too long. South Korea and Japan have been watching this situation closely with us. The United States maintains our ironclad commitment to stand with our allies in the face of the serious threat posed by North Korea. Let this latest provocation serve as a call for all nations to implement far stronger sanctions against North Korea."

The South Korean government said the launch occurred at 5:27 a.m. Sunday, local time, from the Kusong area in North Pyongan Province. The missile flew about 435 miles to the sea of Japan.

"Our military are closely monitoring North Korean forces' trends and maintaining its readiness," the South Korean statement said.

The launch -- the seventh this year -- comes only days after the inauguration of South Korea's President Moon Jae-In, who has repeatedly hinted the new administration would prefer engagement and a softer approach on North Korea.

"Possibility of dialogue with North Korea is still open but we should react firmly against provocations so that North Korea would not misjudge (our intentions)," President Moon said after convening an emergency meeting of the country's National Security Council.

And Japan's Prime Minister Shinzo Abe said he and President Moon discussed by phone the missile test, while his top national security adviser also spoke with his U.S. counterpart. Abe told reporters Sunday that the launch, which is banned by the United Nations, is "absolutely unacceptable" and that Japan will respond resolutely.

"Japan is closely cooperating with the U.S. and South Korea," Abe said, "and analyzing the situation as we firmly respond to the development."
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Re: EMP-Korea Concerns & Discussions #2 (May 2017)

Postby ReadyMom » Thu May 18, 2017 9:30 am

Are Concerns Over EMP Attack From North Korea Overblown?
https://www.thenewamerican.com/world-ne ... -overblown

While the mainstream media is focusing most of its attention on North Korea’s missile tests, it is largely ignoring what some are calling the rogue nation’s real threat: using one or both of its two present satellites hovering over the United States to launch an EMP (electromagnetic pulse) attack instead.

One of those scoffing at the very idea of EMP attack from North Korea is Jeffrey Lewis, who blogs in favor of nonproliferation at his site “Arms Control Wonk.” On National Public Radio in April, Geoff Brumfiel asked him: “Could North Korea really do this?” Lewis laughed, responding, “This is the favorite nightmare scenario of a small group of very dedicated people.”

Dr. Peter Vincent Pry, chief of staff of the Congressional Commission to Assess the Threat to the United States from Electromagnetic Pulse (EMP) Attack, warned on Monday: “Although North Korea, Russia and China have all made nuclear threats against the United States recently, in the case of North Korea and Russia repeatedly, most analysts dismiss these as mere ‘bluster’ and ‘nuclear sabre rattling’, not to be taken seriously.” Pry disagrees.

Currently the executive director of the EMP Task Force on National and Homeland Security, Pry has served on numerous congressional commissions, and prior to that he was an intelligence officer with the (CIA), responsible for analyzing Soviet and Russian nuclear strategy.

In March, Pry and James Woolsey, former director of the CIA, penned an op-ed at TheHill.com. They noted, first of all, that North Korea has the present capability of launching an EMP attack over the North American continent: "The notion that North Korea is testing A-Bombs and H-Bomb components but does not yet have the sophistication to miniaturize warheads and make reentry vehicles for missile delivery is absurd…. North Korea should be regarded as capable of delivering by satellite a small nuclear warhead, specially designed to make a high-altitude electromagnetic pulse (EMP) attack against the United States. According to the Congressional EMP Commission, a single warhead delivered by North Korean satellite could black out the national electric grid and other life-sustaining critical infrastructures for over a year — killing 9 of 10 Americans by starvation and societal collapse."

This brought an immediate response from Kyle Mizokami, a writer for Popular Mechanics. While admitting that North Korea does pose a nuclear threat to the United States, he said that an EMP attack killing 90 percent of the population “is not realistic.” Mizokami referred to one of many apocalyptic novels that have been spawned over such concerns, including one of the best known, William R. Forstchen’s 2011 science-fiction novel One Second After.

Fortschen’s novel, though fiction, was based squarely on (as noted in its endnotes) a 2004 report from the EMP Commission. From that report: “The high-altitude nuclear weapon-generated electromagnetic pulse (EMP) is one of a small number of threats that has the potential to hold our society seriously at risk and might result in defeat of our military forces…. The electromagnetic fields produced by weapons designed and deployed with the intent to produce EMP have a high likelihood of damaging electrical power systems, electronics, and information systems upon which American society depends. Their effects on dependent systems and infrastructures could be sufficient to qualify as catastrophic to the Nation.”

Presciently, the report added: “Terrorists or state actors may well calculate that, instead of destroying a city or military base, they may obtain the greatest political-military utility from one or more such weapons by using them — or threatening their use — in an EMP attack. The current vulnerability of US critical infrastructure can both invite and reward [such an] attack.”

Could North Korea be one of those “state actors”? James Oberg thinks so. Oberg, a former NASA and U.S. Space Command official and an expert on Russian and Chinese space programs, wrote in the Washington Examiner in February of a trip he made to North Korea back in 2012: “There have been fears expressed that North Korea might use a satellite to carry a small nuclear warhead into orbit and then detonate it over the United States for an EMP strike. These concerns seem extreme and require an astronomical scale of irrationality on the part of the regime. The most frightening aspect, I’ve come to realize, is that exactly such a scale of insanity is now evident in the rest of their ‘space program.’”

Like Pry, Oberg is no lightweight. His career spanned 22 years with NASA, where he specialized in orbital rendezvous. He has testified frequently before Congress, was a space correspondent for UPI, ABC, and MSNBC and is now a commentator for NBC News, the Discovery Channel, and the BBC.

Pry ended his article ominously: "Some analysts think the world is on the threshold of a ‘new nuclear age’ where Cold War rules and assumptions about deterrence no longer apply and the likelihood of nuclear use is greatly increasing. The first nation to use nuclear weapons today — even a rogue state like North Korea or Iran — will immediately become the most feared and most credible nuclear power in the world, a formidable force to be reckoned with, and perhaps the dominant actor in a new world order."
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Re: EMP-Korea Concerns & Discussions #2 (May 2017)

Postby apache235 » Thu May 18, 2017 1:44 pm

Too many think that NorK missile tests are failures because they don't have the ICBM trajectory, but they do have an EMP trajectory, and one of Dr. Pry's scenarios would be to strike Japan and most of S Korea.
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Re: EMP-Korea Concerns & Discussions #2 (May 2017)

Postby rickdun » Fri May 19, 2017 10:45 am

The USS Ronald Reagan aircraft carrier group has left Japan for the Korean coast to join up with the other carrier group. :tank:

President Trump is playing no games with North Korea, China or Russia. The little fat boy better start to pucker up.
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Re: EMP-Korea Concerns & Discussions #2 (May 2017)

Postby ReadyMom » Fri May 19, 2017 12:40 pm

rickdun wrote:The USS Ronald Reagan aircraft carrier group has left Japan for the Korean coast to join up with the other carrier group. :tank:

President Trump is playing no games with North Korea, China or Russia. The little fat boy better start to pucker up.


US Navy moves second aircraft carrier USS Ronald Reagan near North Korea, says defence officials
http://www.newsheads.in/world/news/us-n ... /5488.html

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The US Navy is moving a second aircraft carrier, USS Ronald Reagan, to the Korean Peninsula where it will conduct dual-carrier training drills with the USS Carl Vinson, defence officials said. After completing a maintenance period and sea trials in Yokosuka, Japan, the USS Ronald Reagan departed for the Korean Peninsula on Tuesday, the officials told CNN on Thursday.

"Coming out of a long in-port maintenance period we have to ensure that Ronald Reagan and the remainder of the strike group are integrated properly as we move forward," Rear Admiral Charles Williams said in a statement. --- CONTINUED ---
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US Navy deploys second aircraft carrier to North Korea's doorstep
http://www.jokpeme.com/2017/05/us-navy- ... rrier.html

The US Navy is moving a second aircraft carrier to the Korean Peninsula to take part in training exercises days after North Korea conducted a “successful” ballistic missile test.
The nuclear-powered USS Ronald Reagan departed for the Korean Peninsula on Tuesday after undergoing a maintenance period and sea trials in its base in Japan, CNN reported. --- CONTINUED ---
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CVW-5 aircraft fly aboard USS Ronald Reagan for 2017 patrol
https://www.dvidshub.net/news/234446/cv ... 017-patrol

WATERS SOUTH OF JAPAN – Carrier Air Wing (CVW) 5 completed embarkation aboard the Navy’s forward-deployed aircraft carrier, USS Ronald Reagan (CVN 76), May 19.

Over the course of three days, nine squadrons from CVW-5 flew more than 70 aircraft onto the flight deck of Ronald Reagan to integrate with Carrier Strike Group Five for their 2017 Patrol. --- CONTINUED ---
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Re: EMP-Korea Concerns & Discussions #2 (May 2017)

Postby ReadyMom » Mon May 22, 2017 10:48 am

Another Missile launch on Sunday (05/21/17):

US official: North Korea launches medium-range ballistic missile
http://abcnews.go.com/International/sou ... d=47539922

North Korea launched a medium-range ballistic missile Sunday afternoon, a senior Trump administration official has confirmed.

South Korea's Joint Chiefs of Staff said the projectile was fired from an area about 50 miles northeast of Pyongyang.

"We are aware that North Korea launched an MRBM [medium-range ballistic missile]," the U.S. official said in a statement. "This system, last tested in February, has a shorter range than the missiles launched in North Korea's three most recent tests."

Prior to the U.S. official's statement, South Korea's Joint Chiefs of Staff said in a statement, "North Korea launched an unidentifiable projectile to the East Sea from Bukchang area in South Pyongyang Province at 16:49 today." (The East Sea is also referred to as the Sea of Japan.)

The South Korean Joint Chiefs of Staff statement continued, "The projectile flew 500 km [310 miles] and ROK and U.S. are now analyzing its detailed [sic]. ROK military is closely monitoring North Korean provocative trends and maintaining highest military readiness."

Commander David Benham, a U.S. Pacific Command spokesman, also addressed the missile launch, saying in a statement, "U.S. Pacific Command detected and tracked what we assess was a North Korean missile launch at 09:59 p.m. Hawaii time May 20. The launch of a medium range ballistic missile occurred near Pukchang. The missile was tracked until it landed in the Sea of Japan."

The statement continued, "We are working with our Interagency partners on a more detailed assessment. We continue to monitor North Korea's actions closely. U.S. Pacific Command stands behind our ironclad commitment to the security of our allies in the Republic of Korea and Japan. The North American Aerospace Defense Command (NORAD) assessed that the missile launch from North Korea did not pose a threat to North America."

South Korea's Ministry of Foreign Affairs condemned the missile launch, saying in a statement, "The repeated provocation of North Korea is a reckless and irresponsible act that puts cold water on the expectations and aspirations of the Korean government and the international community for the denuclearization of the Korean peninsula and peace settlement, and the government strongly condemns this provocation."

The ministry continued, "The government recently announced a firm commitment to pursue the root resolution of the North Korean nuclear issue through all means including sanctions and dialogue, through dispatching special envoys to major countries such as the US, China, Japan and Russia. While the government is open to possibility of dialogue with North Korea, it will continue to stand firmly in response to provocations, saying that North Korea should immediately stop any provocations that violated UN Security Council resolutions."

Japanese Chief Cabinet Secretary Yoshihide Suga told reporters in Tokyo Sunday, "This launch presented a grave problem from the perspective of ensuring safety of aircraft and vessels. It was also a clear violation of the United Nations' Security Council resolution. Japan cannot accept North Korea's repeated provocation and we have lodged a strong protest against North Korea."

Suga added, "At this point, it is speculated that the area where it fell was not within Japan's Economic Exclusive Zone. There has been so far no report of damage to aircraft or vessels that were passing near the point [where the missile was believed to have fallen.]"

"This launch presented a grave problem from the perspective of ensuring safety of aircraft and vessels. It was also a clear violation of the United Nations' Security Council resolution. Japan cannot accept North Korea's repeated provocation and we have lodged a strong protest against North Korea."

The missile launched Sunday was last tested in February. Called the KN-15, the new solid-fueled missile traveled 310 miles into the Sea of Japan. It was a significant launch, not because of the distance traveled but because of the solid fuel missile technology used in the launch.

Gen. John Hyten, the commander of U.S. Strategic Command, told the Senate Armed Services Committee that the February launch marked a significant advancement for North Korea because it was its first successful solid-fueled missile fired from a mobile launcher.

North Korea last weekend launched a midrange missile that landed in the Sea of Japan after being launched from western North Korea. The Russian Ministry of Defense said the missile flew for about 23 minutes before crashing into the sea around 500 km (310 miles) from Russia into the center of the Sea of Japan.

ABC News' Devin Dwyer and Joohee Cho contributed to this report.
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