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Re: Is the USA Prepared for a Pandemic?

Postby MrPeanut » Sat Oct 04, 2014 9:51 pm

anita wrote:I think the government made the typical newbie prepper mistake. They bought a ton of stuff with expiration dates that were only a couple of years out, rather than spacing their purchases over time so they had rolling expirations.

They seemed to think that the disaster was going to happen within a year.

So did I, when I started prepping, but that was probably 5 years ago. I still expect it within a year, but I don't have enough baked beans for a year in my pantry that all bear an expiration date in the next nine months. :)


Much of what they bought was based on the 2009 pandemic, therefore items had single expiration dates.

Pandemic is over, forget about it, then don't rotate the stocks. Out of sight, out of mind.

Thats why its good to realize dependence on the gov't is not realistic.
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Re: Pandemic Prep: Is the USA Prepared for a Pandemic?

Postby ReadyMom » Fri Oct 27, 2017 10:28 am

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Report details US, global steps to prevent next pandemic
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Oct 24, 2017

A break in key US support for global efforts to protect Americans and the world from pandemics could stall momentum that has been gaining steam in the wake of recent threats such as Ebola and Zika viruses, according to a new report from PATH, an international nonprofit group based in Seattle that advocates for innovations in medical countermeasures for improving global health.

The 36-page report, posted on the group's website, is titled "Healthier World, Safer America: A US Government Roadmap for International Action to Prevent the Next Pandemic." The analysis discusses progress that's been made, outlines the risk if efforts languish, and makes a set of recommendations for moving forward.

Carolyn Reynolds, PATH's vice president of policy and advocacy, said in a statement today that global security funding often comes as a reaction to a crisis rather than ahead of time when cost-effective and sustainable investments can help stop disease outbreaks at the source. "The US and the world are just beginning to reap the benefits of efforts made post-Ebola. Now is not the time to stop back."

GHSA meeting in Uganda

The report comes on the eve of a Global Health Security Agenda (GHSA) meeting that will take place in Kampala, Uganda, this week.

Over the past few years, United States has taken one of the lead roles in the GHSA, a partnership of nations, international organizations, and nongovernmental groups that works toward building countries' capacity to prevent and respond to infectious disease threats.

However, a change in White House administration has made it unclear what the US future role would be, given rhetoric that seems to turn away from global partnerships and mixed signals about global public health in President Trump's budget proposal.

Earlier this month, Secretary of State Rex Tillerson voiced support for US collaboration on global infectious disease issues and signaled the country's support for extending the GHSA to 2024.

In a blog post on the White House web site yesterday, Admiral Tim Ziemer, senior director for Global Health Security at the National Security Council, said he will lead a delegation of US government officials to the Uganda meeting to deliver a commitment to promote global health that President Trump recently made at a meeting with African leaders at the United Nations General Assembly.

He said the group expects to review and fine-tune the 5-year agreement that now includes more than 60 nations working to close gaps in preventing the spread of infectious diseases. "It's not hard to understand why these goals are so widely and eagerly embraced. The world remains under-prepared to prevent, detect, and respond to infectious disease outbreaks, whether naturally occurring, accidental, or deliberately released," Ziemer wrote. "We recognize that the cost of failing to control outbreaks and losing lives is far greater than the cost of prevention."

The United States' three objectives at the meeting are to ensure GHSA extension to 2024, urge partners to sustain and strengthen commitments, and foster partnerships to prevent the next outbreak, he said.

Analysis pushes for funding commitment

The report estimates that $450 million of the federal budget is earmarked for international health security programs, amounting to less than 0.1% of nondefense discretionary spending. However, it warned that fiscal year 2018 House and Senate budget proposals would cut the programs by about 10%.

Since fiscal year 2015, programs at the US Agency for International Development (USAID) and the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) have received $1 billion from the $5.4 billion allocated for the Ebola response to help address country health system problems that helped fuel spread of the outbreak.

PATH said the investments have already had a big impact on building key health capacities in some of the world's least developed countries, but there's more work to do, and the report's findings reveal a big opportunity cost to halting progress.

Reynolds said US support has relied heavily on supplemental funds that will soon disappear. "The US Administration and Congress must maintain its leadership position backed up by the necessary resources to ensure continued vigilance against emerging pandemic threats, both at home and abroad," she said.

The group said it welcomed GHSA commitments from Tillerson and other top government officials and calls to extend it to 2024, and urged the US to take several actions, starting with a GHSA funding commitment that reflects a US strategy to prioritize capacity-building in low- and middle-income countries where outbreaks are most likely to start.

Also, PATH said the plan should come with measurable indicators for progress and senior-level US government oversight and that the United States should keep leading in multilateral forums to encourage continued participation from other countries, health partners, and the private sector.

And finally, the analysis highlights the importance of the nation's investments in developing a strong pipeline of new drugs, diagnostics, vaccines, and other tools to prevent and battle pandemics—for example, through incentives to spur investment from the private sector.

Preparedness on World Bank radar

In related developments, the World Bank held a pandemic exercise during its annual meeting this month, the Washington Post reported today. The simulation involved a mysterious drug-resistant virus that spread quickly and often led to severe respiratory infections that required ventilator treatment.

The exercise is the fourth pandemic planning exercise the World Bank has held this year, according to the report, which it said reflects a growing awareness outside the global health sector about the increasing threats and economic disruption a global pandemic could pose.

Participants at its most recent exercise included ministers from about 12 countries and officials from global health groups and the International Air Transport Association.
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Re: Pandemic Prep: Is the USA Prepared for a Pandemic?

Postby XxBiohazard78xX » Fri Oct 27, 2017 7:36 pm

Quick question, If there was a pandemic, what would be some basic preps you need for one typically. I haven't prepped for a pandemic and if one was to happen I'd be screwed so getting some basic understanding and eventually preps for a pandemic would be incredibly helpful. Thanks
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Re: Pandemic Prep: Is the USA Prepared for a Pandemic?

Postby Illini Warrior » Fri Oct 27, 2017 8:33 pm

XxBiohazard78xX wrote:Quick question, If there was a pandemic, what would be some basic preps you need for one typically. I haven't prepped for a pandemic and if one was to happen I'd be screwed so getting some basic understanding and eventually preps for a pandemic would be incredibly helpful. Thanks



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http://www.planforpandemic.com/
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Re: Pandemic Prep: Is the USA Prepared for a Pandemic?

Postby ReadyMom » Fri Oct 27, 2017 9:50 pm

Illini Warrior wrote:
XxBiohazard78xX wrote:Quick question, If there was a pandemic, what would be some basic preps you need for one typically. I haven't prepped for a pandemic and if one was to happen I'd be screwed so getting some basic understanding and eventually preps for a pandemic would be incredibly helpful. Thanks



http://www.emergencyhomepreparation.org/index.php ( always 1st or Ready Mom will shoot us all)

http://www.getpandemicready.org/

http://www.planforpandemic.com/


Thanks Illini :lol: As another disclosure ... I'm proud to mention that I was part of the team that developed the GetPandemicReady site, as well. It was probably THE first pandemic-specific information tool out on the web when we pulled it together! :thumbup:
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Re: Pandemic Prep: Is the USA Prepared for a Pandemic?

Postby XxBiohazard78xX » Sat Oct 28, 2017 12:08 am

Thanks for the reply , I'll be sure to check out those sites.
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Re: Pandemic Prep: Is the USA Prepared for a Pandemic?

Postby Illini Warrior » Wed Jan 10, 2018 8:51 am

a great two-parter medical article contributed to the SurvivalBlog by a "Doctor DMC" (please note that his/her qualifications aren't indicated)

covers specifically the various disease and the spread that we can expect in a post SHTF environment ...



https://survivalblog.com/realistic-asse ... -1-dr-dmc/

https://survivalblog.com/realistic-asse ... -2-dr-dmc/
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Re: Pandemic Prep: Is the USA Prepared for a Pandemic?

Postby sageprice » Wed Jan 10, 2018 3:14 pm

IMO NO. They have consistently over sold the effectiveness of the flu shots and the coverage has gone down every year. How are they going to ramp up to a pandemic when they can't cover the yearly problems. They will be swamped from day one. big pharma controls the FDA. They are only in for the money not national health.
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Re: Pandemic Prep: Is the USA Prepared for a Pandemic?

Postby woodchipper518 » Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:12 am

The answer is No. there is a IV shortage. Need fluids for most pandemic treatments.
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Re: Pandemic Prep: Is the USA Prepared for a Pandemic?

Postby Illini Warrior » Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:20 am

woodchipper518 wrote:The answer is No. there is a IV shortage. Need fluids for most pandemic treatments.



the IV shortage should be over shortly - Baxter had a big PR article in the biz section of the Chicago Trib about their hurricane recovery - factory coming back online shortly ....

these types of shake ups do cause ripples in the industry - could be some new facilities built in other areas of the country/world to diversify locations ... could be some new players for some of these products that went on short supply - not exactly high tech to add on IV to some of these current operations ....
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Re: Pandemic Prep: Is the USA Prepared for a Pandemic?

Postby daaswampman » Thu Jan 11, 2018 1:39 pm

sageprice wrote:IMO NO. They have consistently over sold the effectiveness of the flu shots and the coverage has gone down every year. How are they going to ramp up to a pandemic when they can't cover the yearly problems. They will be swamped from day one. big pharma controls the FDA. They are only in for the money not national health.


On this we are in complete agreement! People hear about the IV shortage, but we are also running low on medications and many supplies. All that is minor compared to the shortage of isolation rooms, intensive care beds, trained staff, and ventilators. This year may be a little bit worse, but it happens every year. If a big one comes along - we are SOOL! Swamp
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Re: Pandemic Prep: Is the USA Prepared for a Pandemic?

Postby Illini Warrior » Thu Jan 11, 2018 3:33 pm

daaswampman wrote:
sageprice wrote:IMO NO. They have consistently over sold the effectiveness of the flu shots and the coverage has gone down every year. How are they going to ramp up to a pandemic when they can't cover the yearly problems. They will be swamped from day one. big pharma controls the FDA. They are only in for the money not national health.


On this we are in complete agreement! People hear about the IV shortage, but we are also running low on medications and many supplies. All that is minor compared to the shortage of isolation rooms, intensive care beds, trained staff, and ventilators. This year may be a little bit worse, but it happens every year. If a big one comes along - we are SOOL! Swamp



if a pandemic evolves to the point that the CDC begins to mass shelter patients - into schools & armory building similar to the situation with the movie Contagion - no real isolation and there's no miracle cure being dispensed - I think a properly med prepared prepper would be better off going it alone ... plans are available to build a DIY ventilator and other equipment could be improvised ...
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Re: Pandemic Prep: Is the USA Prepared for a Pandemic?

Postby daaswampman » Thu Jan 11, 2018 7:35 pm

At this moment, every hospital in Shreveport Louisiana is on Diversion Override and holding Flu patients in their Emergency rooms. This is just a seasonal flu outbreak and not a pandemic. If we ever experience a pandemic, the last place you want to be is in ANY form of shelter, mass housing, or crowd.

The vast majority of people who become very ill from the Flu have preexisting medical conditions. That is why home treatment is very unlikely to benefit these patients. Swamp
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Re: Pandemic Prep: Is the USA Prepared for a Pandemic?

Postby sageprice » Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:24 pm

the best way to avoid a pandemic is avoid the common vector. PEOPLE!
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Re: Pandemic Prep: Is the USA Prepared for a Pandemic?

Postby Illini Warrior » Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:41 pm

daaswampman wrote:At this moment, every hospital in Shreveport Louisiana is on Diversion Override and holding Flu patients in their Emergency rooms. This is just a seasonal flu outbreak and not a pandemic. If we ever experience a pandemic, the last place you want to be is in ANY form of shelter, mass housing, or crowd.

The vast majority of people who become very ill from the Flu have preexisting medical conditions. That is why home treatment is very unlikely to benefit these patients. Swamp



the very worse is to be directly dealing with the sick or having to handle the contagious dead - #1 reason you don't get involved with a FEMA camp - voluntary or imprisoned - in a pandemic they'll be shanghai-ing the healthy until they aren't ....
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