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so recently I had a sinus infection my wife brought home kit that had packets of saline you mix with sterile water. the Question is could it be used to irrigate a wound or maybe even a I.V The I.V thing scares me but wound wash sounds quite viable any thoughts
I'm not a doctor, but I wouldnt use it as an iv. But I personally would hesitate to use it as a wound wash. Just the sterile water would work.
BTW, did rinsing your sinuses bring relief? I use a neti pot often, sometimes I use just saline, sometimes I add a "booster"
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IIRC normal, hyper and hypotonic salt solutions (including IV solutions) used to be mixed onsite at times (say WW2 or korean war era). Perhaps a medical history buff might research it for us. As far as an irrigation solution boiled then cooled water (cover as best as possable while cooling) should work just fine, but if you really wanted to go to the effort of making sterile water pressure can distilled water, that will do it.
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I would also not use it as an IV fluid as it would be extremely difficult to mix a fluid in a completely sterile environment in an emergency situation. I think it's best to be careful with any solution that you introduce directly into the venous system without any type of bodily filter as a safety net. Although, I have witnessed human bodies be very resilient, even when poisons are introduced directly into the system. IV drug users do it all the time.....some with fatal results.....but many of them are not an acute direct effect due to infection caused by contaminated IV solution. However, I'm sure there have been cases like that, even excluding disease such as hepatitis and AIDS. But, I digress......
DIY saline - http://www.ccac-ont.ca/Upload/mh/Genera ... Saline.pdf
Only serious link on making IV solutions I could locate - Starting with an EPA-quality water source, a stand-alone FIVR device will produce a variety of FDA-approved IV solutions to include normal saline, half saline, dextrose and lactated Ringers. With this the device must be operable by a single person. -http://www.kmimediagroup.com/mmt-home/157-mmt-2007-volume-11-issue-3/1383-make-your-own-iv-fluid.html
Making saline in space (file this under "ya never know") requires space station & assorted NASA type equipment - http://www.nasa.gov/centers/glenn/shutt ... ivgen.html
There are little bottles for eye washing in industrial first aid kits that are perfect for a bob first aid kit, and squirt water under pressure, which makes them perfect for wound irrigation so you have the pressure to knock out dirt and the such. They are sealed and sterile.
Normal saline solution is .9% sodium Chloride. Gotta be careful about too much salt in the body as well as potassium and calcium. You throw too much of one or the other in the mix and you can end up with cardiac issues that could not be so good. I would not use it as an IV solution at all. Possibly an OK thing to irrigate a wound as long as the water is not infested with nasties.
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I read somewhere that irrigating a wound with clear water works just as well as sterile water in the long term because you tend to use more water if it doesn't come in a single application bottle. Like if you can hold the wound under a running tap there is less risk of infection then using normal saline solution or sterile water. Of course when I am at work I use about 10 ,1000 ml bottles to wash a wound but I have it right next to me.( The reason u use n.s. for irrigation is because it mimics blood. As above poster mentioned you have to be careful about introducing certin minerals into the bloodstream).If you are just cleaning a wound clear water is fine. I would be afraid to mix my own I.V. solution for various reasons. Some of which are listed above.But if anyone knows how I am interested. That would be a good thing to know if tshtf.
Oh,and great tip about pressure canning h2o. Now just have to store some distilled water and I will always have sterile water!
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DO NOT USE IT TO MAKE IV FLUID! You will possibly kill someone. As noted before, the normal saline solution is different, and depending on what you are treating, you might need a different solution all together to not draw out fluids and kill the person (e.g. do you need NS or D5% or NSD5...).
As for flushing a wound, high pressure and quantity of fluid is more important than having sterile water or saline solution. Use tap water (as long as it isn't contaminated), just use something that will allow for enough pressure when flushing and use enough water.
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Old thread but why not just buy some IV bags? http://www.progressivemed.com/estylez_item.aspx?item=515538&gclid=CNnu_bW4qrQCFQtxQgodRSYA5g
I have never bought anything from here but supposedly you don't need a prescription. http://www.dealmed.com/ I don't know how they can sell it to anyone other than a licensed health care professional as IV solutions are considered a drug by the FDA and are only supposed to be sold and dispensed on order of a licensed health care provider.
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