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Shall we play a game, III?

Postby Cast Iron » Sat Feb 04, 2017 3:22 pm

Watching what is going on, the reaction of the election, the amount of vitriol hate coming from the Left, comparisons to Hitler and Nazi Germany, the word fascist being thrown around, celebrities calling for blowing up the White House (Madonna), calling for martial law to be enacted leading up to inauguration day (Rosie Odonell), and recently calling on the military to stage a coup (Sara Silverman) here is the scenario:
Civil war has broken out.
The Left honestly, and truly believes they are fighting against the 21st century version of Hitler. Right or wrong, that is what they believe.
As we have seen leading up to the election and the reactions since, they have no problem of acts of violence.
A nation wide movement goes radical, violent, how do you react? Is there really a side? If you are surrounded by those who are embracing mob rule, what do you do?
Per the election demographics, the East and West coasts were primarily Clinton supporters. In a civil war, how would that play out?
Do not limit it to just your personal situation, but how does a war commence with the logistics taken into consideration.
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Re: Shall we play a game, III?

Postby rickdun » Sat Feb 04, 2017 5:13 pm

CI, I live in a very rural area and DJT won PA and everybody around me voted for DJT (except my wife), so I'd almost have to say I'd defend myself and not just the states DJT won. So, I have enough food to last a couple of years, 10's of thousands of ammo and will be ok for some time. Anyone voting the other way and wanting to cause harm to me, my family or property, well, will pay the price.

Back in the late 70's, the KKK was to hold a ralley about 4 miles from where I live in a small farming community (population of about 100 to 150), everyone from the surrounding small towns and townships (including the Amish) came to greet them. The KKK were greeted with rifles, shotguns, pistols, pitchforks, etc.. The KKK never got out of their vehicles, even with the county sheriff escorts.

Small areas do stick together, even if it's another small community or township.

All the government/police, have to do is start doing their job, arresting the (Censored word. I'm a Potty mouth)/bastards that are cousing the riots/property damage and it would soon stop, but we still live in a PC world.
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Re: Shall we play a game, III?

Postby 3ADScout » Sat Feb 04, 2017 5:32 pm

The next CW would be liberal verses conservative based on ideology but geographically (for the most part) it would be rural verses urban. Throughout history FOOD has been the greatest weapon, it would be some what easy to cut off the food supply to the cities for a while. But t just like in the 1860's a navel blockade would be needed. At the same time since ports are in urban areas those in the rural areas can forget getting re-supplied as well. Let them eat cupcakes!
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Re: Shall we play a game, III?

Postby Cast Iron » Sat Feb 04, 2017 5:43 pm

@ RickDun and 3ADScout,
Thank you for your input and observations.

I am not going to add a response as I do not wish to influence others at this time.

I will only add, in this scenario, it is nation wide, it impacts all aspects of life, i.e. Wall-Mart, McDonalds/Starbucks et all no longer function.

Public utilities are questionable at best.

The gas pumps may or may not work.

There are people actively shooting at you.
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Re: Shall we play a game, III?

Postby rickdun » Sat Feb 04, 2017 6:47 pm

Cast Iron wrote:@ RickDun and 3ADScout,
Thank you for your input and observations.

I am not going to add a response as I do not wish to influence others at this time.

I will only add, in this scenario, it is nation wide, it impacts all aspects of life, i.e. Wall-Mart, McDonalds/Starbucks et all no longer function.

Public utilities are questionable at best.

The gas pumps may or may not work.

There are people actively shooting at you.


CI, it may be nation wide, but it may/may not affect me that much, Wal-Marts are 15 miles from me and only go there once every couple of months, McD's/Starbucks (what's that) cause we don't got them where I live unless you want to travel 15/20 miles to get there and I refuse to pay the price of a burger/coffee that's 2,3, 4 bucks when I can do it for .50 cents myself.

Public utilities, I got solar panels to do the bacic's and gas, wood, coal stoves to cook and heat.

People shooting at me, yes I could be shot or family members/friends being shot, but I won't give up until dead. I think most American people will do the same and the demogods will end up in the grave or bleed very badly. Most, if not all these demogods wouldn't know how to start a fire to keep warm/cook, know how to load/aim a weapon if they got one, know how to skin an animal for it's food and how to tan a hide to keep warm, and the list goes on. Most city foke (ny, la, san fran, etc., don't even know how to drive), they take public trans. They will be gone in a few days after it happens.

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Re: Shall we play a game, III?

Postby Mollypup » Sat Feb 04, 2017 7:04 pm

In this area, it would be highly unlikely anyone would be shooting. Too much support for DJT & they know they're ridiculously outnumbered.

If the current situation did blossom into civil war you'd see a pooling of the sides. No one is going to want to remain in "enemy" territory, most especially if they're outnumbered. Any rural liberal (or those in urban areas supportive of Trump) are going to get out of Dodge fairly quickly knowing full well their necks are on the line. Same for conservatives in urban areas & areas that heavily lean liberal.

However, it would be curious as to how it became organized. Last time it was basically north versus south. Just the way the country was set up. This time it's not so cut & dry, there are folks on both sides everywhere, and even more than plenty like me who don't quite lean either way. I would venture to guess unlike last time when it was an actual "war" this time it's going to be more along the lines of domestic terror. And there is going to be an awful lot of stereotyping going on per targets like the older guy who was pulled out of his car & beaten simply because he fit the Trump supporter stereotype.

Given the domestic terror it wouldn't take long before travel would be difficult, so anyone bugging out hopefully will recognize that the fuse has been lit to give themselves enough time to scoot. Commerce would be disrupted, a major concern for cities more so than rural locations. Industry would be hit as employees take sides. Most likely a civil war would cause the already frail economy to shatter.

For me personally?

Highly doubtful anyone would be shooting, if they did, well I've been shot at before. I've got means for defense.
Utilities are nice but I don't need them. Plenty of crocheting to catch up on.
Plenty of food & supplies and I really really dislike fast food.........I won't even miss it.
If I'm home catching up on crocheting, there is no need for gas.

Only real concern is water, but not a whole lot can be done that hasn't been done.

If by some minor miracle it didn't disrupt my job (making gas an issue) there are 5 co-workers that live on my street, so car pooling is certainly doable. If there is no gas to sell, then it's no longer an issue.

Due to it taking on the form of domestic terror (at least in the beginning months), there is a high probability of martial law with strict enforcement.

Sadly, though, with the way the MSM ect are manipulating their puppets this could escalate in the not too distant future into civil war. Perhaps that is the plan. Otherwise, I see little sense in what is going on.

I've not allowed myself to dwell on it very much. A bit too depressing & winter is depressing enough as it is. I'm just observing for now, until I can't stand it & have to shut if off. I can only tolerate it in small sessions.

One things for certain, though, if it comes to civil war a vast amount of the population is in for a serious reality check. *sigh* :shakeno:
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Re: Shall we play a game, III?

Postby BK in KC » Sat Feb 04, 2017 7:33 pm

How to deal with violent protesters

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Re: Shall we play a game, III?

Postby theoutback » Sat Feb 04, 2017 8:06 pm

I don't know about this one CI. I just can't fathom libs taking up arms. They are just a bunch of loudmouth pussies. Maybe the anarchists that tend to side with them might take their riots in big cities a little too far, but I can't ever see anything more than that. Good God, anytime I stand my ground and say my piece here in the socialists republic of Vermont, they scurry away like a scared rat! They just don't have it in them to do anything more than beat a drum or hold hands and sing kumbaya. Sorry I just can't see this game coming true.

I do really like these games though, keep it up.
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Re: Shall we play a game, III?

Postby daaswampman » Sat Feb 04, 2017 8:28 pm

Sounds like a dream come true! It would be urban versus rural! The best action would be to cut supply lines and burn crops, then sit back and wait for the cities to starve! Atlas Shrugged contains many methods to interrupt supplies that would easily work today. Rural lefties might find it very difficult, as some rural folks hate them more than those in the city. Want to play a game! Swamp
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Re: Shall we play a game, III?

Postby donba » Sat Feb 04, 2017 8:51 pm

First thing load the, truck, car, and 5th wheel. If possible rent a small trailer for the car. ( note to self check on trailer hitch for car ) GET THE HECK OUT OF calif. This is the kind of thing that would get the boss lady to leave calif. I think the Verde valley would be our first stop, maybe somewhere up above the rim. We deftly would need to hook up with like minded people. Need to think on this one.......
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Re: Shall we play a game, III?

Postby Permafrost » Sat Feb 04, 2017 8:52 pm

I'll play, although I'm not sure it is fair since I am leaving to go back to the cabin tomorrow.

Personally I think not much will happen to me. My life will continue same as always, other than the fact that I will not burn near as much fuel because I will not be traveling to town to see my wife or running trap lines for furs to sell. We will live out our days on our scrap of nowhere, hunting & fishing & gardening. Like I said it is not exactly fair for me to play because this is the retirement plan anyway and once that kicks in we only need to go to town every two or three years.

Personally I think that if it is a actual civil war Alaska will take the opportunity to leave the US. There are many here who do not like the americans or their politics, but they are playing the long game and waiting for the oil to run out before trying to exit the union. It would be a interesting dilemma for those here that do not have a allegiance to Alaska, and I can see many going back to their homes and families down there. Likewise the military would probably draw down up here and shift troops south to enforce martial law, taking their families with them since they have no ties here. Once the troops draw down Alaska would probably try to leave the union. Alaska imports about 90% of its goods, and shortages would also drive a exodus of people south. It is almost what some are planning up here, decreasing the population of americans so we have a fighting chance to get out.

People that actually like DJT are a minority here, but the majority voted for him because it was better than HRC. Alaska if full of social moderates and fiscal conservatives, I would think that any form of new government would follow along those lines.
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Re: Shall we play a game, III?

Postby Fullmoon » Sat Feb 04, 2017 11:38 pm

The mainstream media propagandists have concentrated their news focus on these out of control rabble rouser punk sore loser pukes to make people believe that most of the population hates The Donald. Its pure horse manure at its finest. There will always be a small percentage of young people who will protest/riot at the drop of a hat about inconsequential current events because to them its just plain fun. I have seen the video of the man in Chicago who was dragged out of his car and thrashed and I remember when Reginol Denny had the same thing happen to him in 1992 in Los Angeles. These were life threatening events and I will not allow the same thing to happen to me. Be prepared, be armed, carry lots of magazines, nutcakes and tweakers are everywhere, both city and rural, so be ready, watch and observe the people around you and defend yourself if attacked. Fortunately there are very few people here where I live and the probability for the bad thing is very low. Got my own water supply, solar panels, generators, water pumps, storage tanks, wild game, chickens, access to beef cattle and lots of supplies. Doubt that it should ever morph into a full blown civil war unless the libtards hire some mercs.
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Re: Shall we play a game, III?

Postby terrapin » Sun Feb 05, 2017 1:24 am

The libs don't want a civil war.
Not the violent, physical type.
They would lose...and they know it.
The libs want to brow-beat us into submission.

Stop fighting them on their own turf.
You can argue with a fool...
and, bring yourself down to that level.

Or not.
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Re: Shall we play a game, III?

Postby DR1VENbyKNOWLEDGE » Sun Feb 05, 2017 2:35 am

OOOOOOOoooooooooo Ooo Oooo!!!! ..... :gunsmile: I DO get to be Patrick Swayze!!! :gunsmile: .... Someone here told me I needed Karma above 10 to even be considered.... :D

In this scenario there no choice but to go full Swayze for me...

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Seriously though, that's what would most likely happen to me.....Prepped, behind enemy lines, blockaded from crossing to rural areas....I would have to fight the front lines here in Urbania, Comiefornia....Most likely die eventually.

Big Bear is only an hour away....Hmmmmm.
Alternate BOL, not too cold thru winter, wife and kid would have to learn to flip the switch QUICK.... It would be rough to say the least.
And these snowflakes around me ask why I take courses so often...lol..Pffffttt....."For the fun of it" I tell them.(Even if its true....)

To be fair I do see Libs at the range....They're easy to spot really...They just suck SO bad!!!...lol....

I'm a goner boys.. Too out numbered here... Don't forget me and take heart there's a few of us here fighting the good fight behind enemy lines...No one wins in war but I'm sure as hell going to take a poo poo load of them with me.
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Postby rebnavy1862 » Fri Apr 07, 2017 4:00 pm
Driven, are you sure you are from Kalifornia? You make a lot of sense.
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Re: Shall we play a game, III?

Postby terrapin » Sun Feb 05, 2017 3:59 am

DR1VENbyKNOWLEDGE wrote:OOOOOOOoooooooooo Ooo Oooo!!!! ..... :gunsmile: I DO get to be Patrick Swayze!!! :gunsmile: .... Someone here told me I needed Karma above 10 to even be considered.... :D

In this scenario there no choice but to go full Swayze for me...

Image

Seriously though, that's what would most likely happen to me.....Prepped, behind enemy lines, blockaded from crossing to rural areas....I would have to fight the front lines here in Urbania, Comiefornia....Most likely die eventually.

Big Bear is only an hour away....Hmmmmm.
Alternate BOL, not too cold thru winter, wife and kid would have to learn to flip the switch QUICK.... It would be rough to say the least.
And these snowflakes around me ask why I take courses so often...lol..Pffffttt....."For the fun of it" I tell them.(Even if its true....)

To be fair I do see Libs at the range....They're easy to spot really...They just suck SO bad!!!...lol....

I'm a goner boys.. Too out numbered here... Don't forget me and take heart there's a few of us here fighting the good fight behind enemy lines...No one wins in war but I'm sure as hell going to take a poo poo load of them with me.

Pack yer stuff, and haul it to Texas.
I got a place for ya.
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