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Postby Cadit » Thu Jun 29, 2017 12:21 pm

Ok: say the Lib's are successful in a coup to over throw our government, what then. And if they should be stupid enough to invite Russia or China in as allies in their quest? What then would be your action for you and your family or group? I think we all know that the liberal states: CA, NY, DC, will be backing the coup along with the other traitor three states. You know that the largest cities in each state among would be their first targets.

What? Head for the hills as it were, stand and fight; how much of our own army Airforce and Navy would be behind us? You know our infrastructure would be shut down or destroyed. Would it be like in the Civil War, families divided, fighting one another. Children turning own their parents? I mean; we are living in a time that has never been so divided sense the Civil War and the Viet-Nam Wars, where we were killing our own people. Like in these two wars; our own citizens were killing American citizens because of the uniform they wore.

Americans are now, today being attacked in the same fashion, for who we support, or what we believe in, Our Constitution, and its not showing any signs of letting up. So; What's your thoughts, what will you do? How will you prepare? Who will you trust? And how will you safe guard yourself, your family, your group from being infiltrated.
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Re: Liberals Coup-De-Tat

Postby Gunns » Thu Jun 29, 2017 1:48 pm

You are asking hypothetically as in fiction?

Liberals will never do a Coup. A failed one maybe. They are trying to legitimatize the current president but they are failing in that regard as well.

Liberals would never allow Russia to help or drop onto our soil. Now they might allow Muslim countries to help them.
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Re: Liberals Coup-De-Tat

Postby rebnavy1862 » Thu Jun 29, 2017 2:09 pm

Liberals could try a coup d'etat, but they would be bringing baseball bats and hockey sticks to a gun fight. They have been very busy disarming themselves and feminizing their male(?) population.
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Re: Liberals Coup-De-Tat

Postby Cadit » Thu Jun 29, 2017 2:44 pm

Thanks for the post, I too don't think it would fly, but I wouldn't underestimate their resolve, We made that mistake with the Civil War and again with the dissidents of our citizens of the 60's and 70's, much hurt and many deaths befall our soldiers state side and returning, shot on the side of the road or ran over. It got so bad the hitch-hiking was band and uniforms were not allowed to be warn in public.

So; I wouldn't think that that because they are against arms, that they wouldn't pick one up and use it. The hippies did, and they were against violence. I'm just saying; the pot's starting to simmer, watch to see if it starts boiling. Never underestimate your Opponent, he or she just might surprise you. The Muslim thing may be right, but most of what I see is rhetoric of Socialism more that Communism, but either way, if that is how they are swayed/brainwashed, then I think those who have control over them will push the issue as they do now, and want more help from likeminded people, be it stateside or foreign.

We can't fight a war on two fronts divided as we are.
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Re: Liberals Coup-De-Tat

Postby Illini Warrior » Thu Jun 29, 2017 2:54 pm

the military can barely stomach a legit elected liberal gooberment - they certainly as hell won't back some BS formed one ....

if a coup would ever be at all possible - it would be because a radical like Obammy took it tooooo far and threatened the security of the country ....

you honest to God think that something like this Russia crap would stand up to a Chief of Staff scrutiny for backing a Trump impeachment - they aren't stupid ...
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Re: Liberals Coup-De-Tat

Postby ajax727 » Thu Jun 29, 2017 5:16 pm

They the libs could already be armed remember the mass amount of ammo and arms that was purchased and no one knows were it went or to whom under Odrama , so a shadow army could be ready .

One small step has been taken already that is the attempt to discredit Mr. Trump and the election results add in the Russian probe , and the fake news along with the call for impeachment by the Libs .
As for what I or our group would do well we will cross the bridge when or if it happens .
The fight for our independence also pitted us against each other . The group that held fast the love for England got there ace kicked by the local rebels as they were called . The Civil War was a war against the forced rule imposed upon us . It also killed all state rights an imposed federal law .
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Re: Liberals Coup-De-Tat

Postby daaswampman » Thu Jun 29, 2017 7:49 pm

Can't happen here - Really! Venezuela - Hugo Chavez - A collapse in confidence in the existing parties led to Chávez being elected president! Remember how well Bernie did in our last election! Swamp
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Re: Liberals Coup-De-Tat

Postby Permafrost » Fri Jun 30, 2017 1:15 am

As much as I hare libs and would love to discount the idea all together, I do think it is a outside possibility if things get bad enough for them. Don't get me wrong I hate them, they are trying to end my way of life because "fur is murder" and everyone should only eat imported plants instead of meat.

Two things chill my blood when I think of this.

One, there are a lot of these "people". It is simple numbers, a group of 10 heavily armed men or women will not stand a chance against 1000 scrawny emaciated tree huggers. Granted the losses would be astronomical but in the end the numbers would overpower the heavily armed people. It would become a war of attrition, and it takes no time to become vegetarian cannon fodder but it takes months to train soldiers.

Two, there are a lot of fence sitters and they are armed. I even have to consider myself part of this group. These are the people who are actually in the middle on most issues. Most of these people could care less about gay rights or abortion or any of it, they like the status quo and do not want to rock the boat. My fear is that these people will throw their lot in with the liberals as soon as the conservatives go to far, and then it is not just the numbers but it is also armed people. For each one it will be a different trigger, a family member coming out or a rape that results in a abortion, but slowly they will align with the far left as politicians push to the right.

This gets compounded with the "moral" dilemma that will plague those who could care less but are expected to follow orders. How many people could pull the trigger on a unarmed (at least no firearms) person when they are ordered to protect some bank that foreclosed on their brother-in-laws house. This is why the occupy wall street people were allowed to go as far as they did, the people who were supposed to stop them had themselves been wronged by the institutions that needed protecting. Nobody wanted to shoot some guy throwing rocks at a bank because that bank had similarly screwed all the people that it needed to protect it. I imagine that a "new revolution" would go down the same way, and many could not stomach killing unarmed civilians. Look at the revolution in Ukraine, there may be a civil war now but at the time that power changed hands it was relatively bloodless as far as these things go.

On some level I think it might be good to have a limited confrontation, but once it starts I don't think it will stop. If it was limited it would keep people from straying to far left or right, and the extremists on both sides would probably die. But again I don't think it would be limited, and I'm sure there are many other angles I'm not seeing.

A very interesting thought exercise, thanks.
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Re: Liberals Coup-De-Tat

Postby Gunns » Fri Jun 30, 2017 10:44 am

Permafrost wrote:As much as I hare libs and would love to discount the idea all together, I do think it is a outside possibility if things get bad enough for them. Don't get me wrong I hate them, they are trying to end my way of life because "fur is murder" and everyone should only eat imported plants instead of meat.

Two things chill my blood when I think of this.

One, there are a lot of these "people". It is simple numbers, a group of 10 heavily armed men or women will not stand a chance against 1000 scrawny emaciated tree huggers. Granted the losses would be astronomical but in the end the numbers would overpower the heavily armed people. It would become a war of attrition, and it takes no time to become vegetarian cannon fodder but it takes months to train soldiers.

Two, there are a lot of fence sitters and they are armed. I even have to consider myself part of this group. These are the people who are actually in the middle on most issues. Most of these people could care less about gay rights or abortion or any of it, they like the status quo and do not want to rock the boat. My fear is that these people will throw their lot in with the liberals as soon as the conservatives go to far, and then it is not just the numbers but it is also armed people. For each one it will be a different trigger, a family member coming out or a rape that results in a abortion, but slowly they will align with the far left as politicians push to the right.

This gets compounded with the "moral" dilemma that will plague those who could care less but are expected to follow orders. How many people could pull the trigger on a unarmed (at least no firearms) person when they are ordered to protect some bank that foreclosed on their brother-in-laws house. This is why the occupy wall street people were allowed to go as far as they did, the people who were supposed to stop them had themselves been wronged by the institutions that needed protecting. Nobody wanted to shoot some guy throwing rocks at a bank because that bank had similarly screwed all the people that it needed to protect it. I imagine that a "new revolution" would go down the same way, and many could not stomach killing unarmed civilians. Look at the revolution in Ukraine, there may be a civil war now but at the time that power changed hands it was relatively bloodless as far as these things go.

On some level I think it might be good to have a limited confrontation, but once it starts I don't think it will stop. If it was limited it would keep people from straying to far left or right, and the extremists on both sides would probably die. But again I don't think it would be limited, and I'm sure there are many other angles I'm not seeing.

A very interesting thought exercise, thanks.


Have you ever served in the Military? Just asking because 1,000 tree huggers may not be able to handle 10 veterans. Even if the tree huggers have rifles and vets have hand guns. In the military we were trained in what a kill zone was. It was the immediate space in front of you going left to right and over lapping those on either side by a bit. I don't recall the degrees. But what it does is allows each person cover an area. Pretty danged effective too.

I do agree with you that we are heading for something interesting.
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Re: Liberals Coup-De-Tat

Postby rickdun » Fri Jun 30, 2017 11:29 am

Gunns, back in Vietnam, we call what you're talking about as the "final firing line", the last line of defense, was involved twice with it and take it from me, your pants are wet if you survive.
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Re: Liberals Coup-De-Tat

Postby rebnavy1862 » Fri Jun 30, 2017 12:22 pm

Thanks, Gunns, for your answer.
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Re: Liberals Coup-De-Tat

Postby Gunns » Fri Jun 30, 2017 2:19 pm

rickdun wrote:Gunns, back in Vietnam, we call what you're talking about as the "final firing line", the last line of defense, was involved twice with it and take it from me, your pants are wet if you survive.


I bet. Only time I really sweat it was when I was in South Korea and facing me across the DMZ was a bunch of NK tanks. My zone was about 160 degrees. Was during the "Ax Murder incident". Nothing happened of course but we were not amused.
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Re: Liberals Coup-De-Tat

Postby Permafrost » Fri Jun 30, 2017 2:50 pm

Gunns wrote:Have you ever served in the Military? Just asking because 1,000 tree huggers may not be able to handle 10 veterans. Even if the tree huggers have rifles and vets have hand guns. In the military we were trained in what a kill zone was. It was the immediate space in front of you going left to right and over lapping those on either side by a bit. I don't recall the degrees. But what it does is allows each person cover an area. Pretty danged effective too.

I do agree with you that we are heading for something interesting.

It's simple numbers Gunns. per your example, 10 vets with handguns @ 15 shots per clip = 150 rounds of ammo before reload, figure everyone has 4 spare clips that gives a total count of 750 rounds. Not all of those will be kill shots. History is full of examples of governments getting overthrown by starving peasants with sticks going up against superior armed troops. It is the will of the peasants that throw away their lives for the "grater good" that turns the tide. If every welfare crack head and greeny tree hugger suddenly stormed the power structures there would be a sudden population drop by a order of magnitude but they might also have a chance to actually win. Not saying there would be very many of them left when all was said and done but they would have a chance if they wanted it bad enough.

Like I said a interesting thought exercise, especially when you start looking at population percentages on welfare vs active duty troops stationed by major cities. It gets even worse when you throw in the prison populations that the rioters will surely release. If you do the math it leaves a bleak picture of what would be left for those in the middle that could care less about either side.
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Re: Liberals Coup-De-Tat

Postby rebnavy1862 » Fri Jun 30, 2017 4:00 pm

"Clip"? Were you referring to magazines?
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Re: Liberals Coup-De-Tat

Postby Drakenstead1 » Fri Jun 30, 2017 4:49 pm

I decided to think this one over before posting. A lot of folks who I respect have already done so with what I would consider accurate but limited analysis. I consider all of you friends and to be intelligent patriots. My use of the word "limited" is by no means meant to denigrate any of you or your responses. I pray that when "IT" happens I have you all, or men like you to stand with.

The so called liberals (that term if you research the original meaning does not actually apply to them) have demonstrated their methodology for many years. Their current strategy of binding up the President with a thousand legal entanglements and to assault him with the propaganda apparatus of their lap dog and traitorous media is a continuation of their strategy over the years with added intensity and sophistication. It reminds me of the Johnathon Swift scene where the hero finds himself bound by hundreds of threads and surrounded by the diminutive Lilliputians.
It's my contention that there is a "coup de etat" (strike to the state) in play as we discuss this. These people are first and foremost cowards and bullies. They will never confront but seek like the rats that they are to crawl around the edges and gnaw at the moorings until the ship of state drifts free so they can present themselves as saviors. Their stated strategy has always been to create a problem then present themselves and their agenda as the solution. They will continue to attack through the judiciary and with their mangy dogs in the media until they can set up a situation where an entity of the existing government can act to seize control in the interests of saving the country and restoring order. You can bet your last dollar that even if their is an attack by Islamic extremists the blame, will be placed on what they term "right wing fascist elements" (That's us by the way).
I have a running argument with a very good friend in which he tells me that due to a long standing code, the military especially the officer's corps will have no part of this. My position is that the traditional officer's corps has been purged of most of the old line men of honor & that many of our service members are products of the same education system and philosophy that has produced our crop of campus snowflakes and social justice warriors. Coming from a very long family tradition of service to this country and having take the OATH myself (twice actually) I am inclined to agree with him. The evidence I see to the contrary is hard for me to swallow but I must accept it until I see evidence to the contrary.
I suspect that the LEOs are in the same position. Many of them as with the military are decent patriotic Americans who would and do put their lives on the line to stand behind their oath. But like the military a lot of our LEOs unfortunately are also products of the same system. In addition, when the breakdown and chaos occur they will have to consider their families and especially the welfare of their children. To buck the system would be to risk starvation or worse. Thus I see a serious problem in who exactly do you shoot and who exactly do you trust. Obviously the liberal (Censored word. I'm a potty mouth) hat neighbor celebrating the triumph of what he considers the greater good can't be trusted. But what about the sheriff's deputies or the NG rifle squads charged with door to door confiscation of weapons and the round up of "fascist elements". How do you spot them and how do you shoot some poor bastard who was forced to make a choice between his job and keeping his kids safe and fed?

The coup will be executed without shots being fired. It's their way. The aftermath is when things will get dicey. All of those ARs buried in Obama tubes and all of the 5.56 green tip, magazines and web gear will come out of the ground but then when you try to organize with your neighbors what happens? The media will rail against the fascist uprising and run long blowhard pieces about Russian aid to these criminals. Their new president and legislators will call for martial law for the duration of an emergency that will last generations. They will hail our Constitution and our "way of life" while they dismember it completely. I expect that the aid of UN Peacekeepers will be enlisted and that a purge of the military and Law Enforcement will be one of the first programs enacted. The disarming of the population and the internment of "fascist elements" will occur concurrently.

This is indeed a dark view of the future. I have several possible solutions in mind but hesitate to enumerate them in such a very public forum. I suspect that many of you have things in mind and probably have even made actual preps . I'd suggest that detailing them here would be unwise. I also strongly suspect that what many of you think and are preparing would fit 100% with mine. I'm an old man slightly crippled but still dangerous. There were a lot of lessons to be learned from little yellow men in black pajamas. We also have traditions going back to the French and Indian wars to feed us. Just be careful to whom you speak and what you propose. This is coming all of us can feel it in the wind. We need to water the Tree of Liberty once again
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