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Re: Antifa Protest Movement Danger To Preppers

Postby TRex2 » Fri Sep 01, 2017 4:10 am

Cast Iron wrote:A history lesson, and interesting idea as to who might be manipulating the far-left.

How to Avoid America’s Coming Years of Lead
http://observer.com/2017/08/russia-amer ... -far-left/


Continuing my analysis of the article, let me first say that none of this commentary is related to the two posts made last night by rickdun and the daaswampman, I am simply continuing my own line of analysis.

This article is by John Schindler, a former intel analyst with impressive credentials, and he has done a good job, overall. No two analysts see things the same way, however, so my view will be at variance with his, and ultimately (might take three postings to get all of my thoughts across) I will expose that he is actually contributing to the problem.

I don't know much about the "Observer," since it is kinda hard core on the profiteering (runs enough adds to overheat my computer), so I was disappointed that the article doesn't discuss how "we" (preppers) could avoid America's coming "years of lead," but rather, it was trying to spell out how America could avoid the coming "years of lead."

I appreciate his take on the history of the Red Army, and I learned a few things, some of which I had already suspected, like the connections from the Red Army to organizations behind the Iron Curtain.

I have already seen evidence that traces connections from them to George Soros and some implications that he may be getting at least some part of his financial muscle from Eastern Block powers.

It surprised me that he didn't already know about those connections, but instead chose to focus on the connections between the "Far Right" (and I still think that is a misnomer). I have read his article on that subject, and it held more surprises, for me, than this one. More, on that, later.

His statements that the "far-left has faced less public scrutiny" and "habitual double standard about genocidal totalitarianisms" and that "those who brandish the flags of genocidal totalitarian regimes have no place in a law-based democracy and ought to be treated as the pariahs they are" are right on the money, but he doesn't elaborate on how we need to do that, or who is failing to call them out.

What is more, after mentioning that "we must be aware of what’s really going on, and who’s trying to harm our country" he calls the deliberate standing down of law enforcement "underperformance" rather than calling it out as and intentional directive from those who are trying to harm our country.

Ultimately, my analysis of this article is that it outlines part of the problem, but soft peddles both the nature of the threat and fails to call out the channel by which that threat is being delivered.

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Re: Antifa Protest Movement Danger To Preppers

Postby Cast Iron » Fri Sep 01, 2017 6:36 am

TRex2 wrote:
Cast Iron wrote:A history lesson, and interesting idea as to who might be manipulating the far-left.

How to Avoid America’s Coming Years of Lead
http://observer.com/2017/08/russia-amer ... -far-left/


Continuing my analysis of the article, let me first say that none of this commentary is related to the two posts made last night by rickdun and the daaswampman, I am simply continuing my own line of analysis.

This article is by John Schindler, a former intel analyst with impressive credentials, and he has done a good job, overall. No two analysts see things the same way, however, so my view will be at variance with his, and ultimately (might take three postings to get all of my thoughts across) I will expose that he is actually contributing to the problem.

I don't know much about the "Observer," since it is kinda hard core on the profiteering (runs enough adds to overheat my computer), so I was disappointed that the article doesn't discuss how "we" (preppers) could avoid America's coming "years of lead," but rather, it was trying to spell out how America could avoid the coming "years of lead."

I appreciate his take on the history of the Red Army, and I learned a few things, some of which I had already suspected, like the connections from the Red Army to organizations behind the Iron Curtain.

I have already seen evidence that traces connections from them to George Soros and some implications that he may be getting at least some part of his financial muscle from Eastern Block powers.

It surprised me that he didn't already know about those connections, but instead chose to focus on the connections between the "Far Right" (and I still think that is a misnomer). I have read his article on that subject, and it held more surprises, for me, than this one. More, on that, later.

His statements that the "far-left has faced less public scrutiny" and "habitual double standard about genocidal totalitarianisms" and that "those who brandish the flags of genocidal totalitarian regimes have no place in a law-based democracy and ought to be treated as the pariahs they are" are right on the money, but he doesn't elaborate on how we need to do that, or who is failing to call them out.

What is more, after mentioning that "we must be aware of what’s really going on, and who’s trying to harm our country" he calls the deliberate standing down of law enforcement "underperformance" rather than calling it out as and intentional directive from those who are trying to harm our country.

Ultimately, my analysis of this article is that it outlines part of the problem, but soft peddles both the nature of the threat and fails to call out the channel by which that threat is being delivered.

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Thank you for your assessment.
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Re: Antifa Protest Movement Danger To Preppers

Postby Cast Iron » Fri Sep 01, 2017 6:38 am

FBI, Homeland Security warn of more ‘antifa’ attacks

Confidential documents call the anarchists that seek to counter white supremacists ‘domestic terrorists.’


http://www.politico.com/story/2017/09/0 ... fbi-242235
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Re: Antifa Protest Movement Danger To Preppers

Postby rickdun » Fri Sep 01, 2017 6:48 am

We the american people and it's politicians have allowed this to happen, since the '70's:

We've taken prayer out of the homes and schools, we've taken discipline out of the homes and schools, we allow the burning of our american flag, we allow athletes to kneel during our national anthem, we have so many children born out of wedlock with nobody to raise them the right way, law enforcement stand ideally by and watch protesters set fires, break windows, destroy property, assault/murder other people and everything else in between. Yes, we and our politicians are to blame for these actions and we are the only ones that can fix it or it's going to get a lot worse.
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Re: Antifa Protest Movement Danger To Preppers

Postby TRex2 » Fri Sep 01, 2017 7:45 am

I was debating whether to make this the second or the third part of my analysis. Here it is, and I may have a third part, concentrating only on the Alt-Right, later.

About two days after the bloodshed in Charlottsville NC, John Schindler wrote an article about the Alt-Right figure Robert Spencer. In the process, he bashed Trump about not immediately naming names among the so called "right wing" hate groups that were willing participants in the violence.

He should have re-thought his approach, since he (possibly inadvertently) became part of the problem.

Near the beginning, with his statement
Why Donald J. Trump singularly failed to rapidly denounce Fields and his ilk is a troubling question—not to mention one that’s difficult to answer . After all, the kook-right is tiny in numbers, are hardly major campaign donors, and are repulsive to normal Americans, so why would any president delay condemning them?

The Nazified far-right thereby has joined the highly select pantheon of people whom President Trump won’t denounce no matter how badly they misbehave—whose only other member is Vladimir Putin. It bears examining whether Trump’s stunning silence may not be a coincidence.

In addition to playing into the hand of the Russian Conspiracy Theorists, how is it that Trump should be criticized for not denouncing the only organization that had a legal presence there?

To re-cap: The Alt-Right had a permit for a demonstration. Neo-Nazis and other undesirables joined them, and they should be taken to task for allowing infiltration by groups known to be troublemakers. The Alt-Left (BLM and Antifa) had no legal right to be there, and were the ones who initiated the violence. True, the Neo-Nazi's were happy to participate, but BLM and Antifa went there for no reason other than to initiate violence.

And the police were culpable, in that they refused to enforce laws that were being broken by the Alt-Left, but only stepped in when the so called right wing organizations also became violent.

Trump denounced all participants in the violence, without naming any of them, in his first announcement about the incident. Trump did what was right.

Sadly, this author joined in the chorus of voices, from the Left, who felt Trump should have condemned the factions who associated themselves with the Alt-Right, but doesn't seem concerned that Alt-Left should be called out by name, also. So, at least for this article and the next, his stance comes across as the Alt-Right is violent and hateful, but the Alt-Left is not, or that they should be given a pass.

Despite his making partial amends in the later article about "The Days of Lead," this is what I meant in my earlier post, that he has become part of the problem.
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Re: Antifa Protest Movement Danger To Preppers

Postby Cast Iron » Sun Sep 03, 2017 7:16 am

Is the Alt-Left movement more widespread than anyone thought?

Public School Teachers Behind Violent Antifa Group


http://dailycaller.com/2017/09/01/publi ... ifa-group/
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Re: Antifa Protest Movement Danger To Preppers

Postby TRex2 » Sun Sep 03, 2017 7:36 am

Cast Iron wrote:Is the Alt-Left movement more widespread than anyone thought?
Public School Teachers Behind Violent Antifa Group
http://dailycaller.com/2017/09/01/publi ... ifa-group/

Well, I don't know what "anyone" thought, but since Antifa is a militant faction of the socialist portion of the Democrat party, I have always assumed it is found pretty much where ever liberals are common. That means every University (with only a few exceptions), most High Schools, and virtually every Main Stream Media outlet.
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Re: Antifa Protest Movement Danger To Preppers

Postby RockinB » Sun Sep 03, 2017 8:21 am

Cast Iron wrote:Is the Alt-Left movement more widespread than anyone thought?


No. These Liberal Marxists are widespread and have been for many years growing in our education system and the State is full of them.
If this country falls it will highly likely be from within and directly caused by the actions of the State's continued destruction of borders, culture and beliefs by importing humans that have no connection to American ideals and way of life.

I don't believe many of us are stacking ammo expecting foreign invaders. Not in my group anyway...
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Re: Antifa Protest Movement Danger To Preppers

Postby ajax727 » Sun Sep 03, 2017 10:51 am

The above points are well taken an are true , others are trying to force their will upon us , there attempt is to destroy our nation from within seems to be working . Our nation must withstand this or as stated we will fall and become slaves to the rich and powerful cohorts that wish to rule over us .

The times are a coming when we the people will have to decide are we going to side with the left or right ? We know for what each side stands for and each side don't appeal to most of us but we might have to take a stand and hope for the best outcome . This is a sad point but hopefully we can come back to the center after it is all over .
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Re: Antifa Protest Movement Danger To Preppers

Postby Cast Iron » Sun Sep 03, 2017 12:01 pm

It appears no one can confirm or deny if the General did in fact write the following.

Regardless, I find myself agreeing with many of his points.

A Word To The Wise - "You're A Mercenary If..."

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-09-0 ... rcenary-if
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Re: Antifa Protest Movement Danger To Preppers

Postby TRex2 » Sun Sep 03, 2017 12:56 pm

Cast Iron wrote:It appears no one can confirm or deny if the General did in fact write the following.
Regardless, I find myself agreeing with many of his points.
A Word To The Wise - "You're A Mercenary If..."
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-09-0 ... rcenary-if

You are right, that it doesn't matter who wrote it.
It is true.
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Re: Antifa Protest Movement Danger To Preppers

Postby Cast Iron » Mon Sep 04, 2017 11:00 am

After Bay Area violence, California debates classifying 'antifa' as a street gang

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-m ... story.html
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Re: Antifa Protest Movement Danger To Preppers

Postby TRex2 » Mon Sep 04, 2017 11:51 am

Cast Iron wrote:After Bay Area violence, California debates classifying 'antifa' as a street gang
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-m ... story.html

That is just the tip of the iceberg. There is some kind of reckoning coming
to America, and I think it won't look pretty.
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Re: Antifa Protest Movement Danger To Preppers

Postby anita » Mon Sep 04, 2017 11:58 am

Cast Iron wrote:Is the Alt-Left movement more widespread than anyone thought?

Public School Teachers Behind Violent Antifa Group


http://dailycaller.com/2017/09/01/publi ... ifa-group/


A little off-topic...

Far-left propaganda is being taught in our schools, and not just by nitwits like this woman.

We sent our kids to private school to get away from this. Since our older two are 10 and 12 years older than the youngest, I have a first-hand multi-generational view of schools and how they've changed. When our older two were at the private school, the teachers were mostly on the liberal end of the spectrum, but not blatantly so. Often the kids weren't sure of the teacher's politics. (I bought one of my son's teachers a book of Reagan quotes for a gift once, and he told me he had voted both ways but voted for Obama. (!) We had no clue, because he made kids think, didn't try to force his opinions on them.

The Bible was taught in the school even though it didn't have a religious affiliation. It was taught in English, part of a well-rounded education.

In the last two or three years, almost every speaker is concerning race, white privilege, or some such. Many of the teachers hired are blatantly gay/whatever. Virtually all are liberal, and mostly extremely liberal. One teacher has started a club for transexuals. Another for feminists. This year's summer reading book was I AM JAZZ.

Almost all books read deal have some sort of race/gender issues bent, and most are depressing. Most of this change has taken place in the last two to three years, after the gay headmaster took over.

Their main priority has moved from providing a strong education to indoctrination.

I went to diversity meetings over the last two years to ask where the independence of thought was (the first part of their mission statement.) They just stared at me when I brought it up. What a novel idea!

This is happening all over the country, and not just in liberal bastions of Berkeley and San Francisco.

If my son hadn't graduated last year, it would have been his last year there regardless. The good thing, if there is one, is that he had to learn to support his conservative beliefs. He was often the only conservative in a class. When he graduated, one of the comments teachers made about him was that he always supported his politics. Not sure they thought it was a good thing. He definitely has a strong conservative core though.

If I had it to do over, I would definitely have home-schooled him.

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Re: Antifa Protest Movement Danger To Preppers

Postby TRex2 » Mon Sep 04, 2017 12:19 pm

Trouble is, there is an push to make internalization of that ultra-liberal indoctrination a requirement in order to get any kind of educational certification. Eventually, they hope to make that a requirement for a high school diploma.

This article is about a German Homeschooling case tried in our courts, and its impact on Americans:
https://www.hslda.org/docs/news/2013/201302110.asp
In most asylum cases, there is some guesswork necessary to figure out the government’s true motive—but not in this case. The Supreme Court of Germany declared that the purpose of the German ban on homeschooling was to “counteract the development of religious and philosophically motivated parallel societies.”

This sounds elegant, perhaps, but at its core it is a frightening concept. This means that the German government wants to prohibit people who think differently from the government (on religious or philosophical grounds) from growing and developing into a force in society.

Dressed-up Totalitarianism

It is thought control. It is belief control. It is totalitarianism dressed up in politically correct lingo.

But my goal today is to not belabor the nature of German repression of homeschooling; rather I seek to reveal the view of the United States government to all of this.

The rest of the article sums up why our government's stand on this case leads to the government having the right to indoctrinate our children by force.
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