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Re: Things that make you go hmmmm

Postby Rosemead » Sat Aug 19, 2017 4:49 pm

Illini Warrior wrote:definitely been an upsurge in crime across the board - could be that this parking garage has been hit with vandalism or maybe other crime - the owner is getting grief from the patrons and/or the insurance company ....


Yes, homeless is way up, lot's of people living on the street, part of what scares me.
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How is a state religion bad, but state medicine good?

Originally Posted by steamboatpete:
Anyone who makes the decision to depend upon the government to take care of their basic needs has essentially doomed himself to a life of bitter disappointment.
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Re: Things that make you go hmmmm

Postby daaswampman » Sat Aug 19, 2017 7:02 pm

I am glad Illini Warrior brought up crime. I was talking with a local Sheriff and he states petty property crime is way up and he thinks it is due to the drug epidemic our nation is in. He even mentioned the homeless camps along the major highway.

Personally I think it all ties together, most Americans can't see a better future and will not accept any change is up to them. It has never been easier to get ahead in America, but try to explain that to a product of public education - indoctrination! Swamp
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Re: Things that make you go hmmmm

Postby Dirk Williams » Sat Aug 19, 2017 7:36 pm

All Trump bought us, is more time. I pray, and hope your using that time wisely. If you don't clearly see what's going on, you need to work on your critical thinking skills.

World War, Civil War, Race War, they all end in war.

It's time to clearly understand exactly who the real enemy. HINT, it isn't Russia, and it lives in Washington DC.

The people are loosing respect, for authority, look at Boston today, Evansville three weeks ago, and Virgina last week.

Your politicians, care not what you think, they represent big business, and one worlders.

This nation is a sliver away from total anarchy. Are you ready? Are you willing to stand up for this country, and our way of life?

It's time to get your affairs in order, gather your flock, and have the conversations nesassary, with your loved ones.

Tic Toc.

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Re: Things that make you go hmmmm

Postby DR1VENbyKNOWLEDGE » Sat Aug 19, 2017 10:28 pm

daaswampman wrote:"Argue for your limitations, and sure enough they're yours." - Richard Bach



great, and true quote.....so past a one liner, what would you suggest Swamp?

I'm open to you thinking of something I haven't tried....
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Postby rebnavy1862 » Fri Apr 07, 2017 4:00 pm
Driven, are you sure you are from Kalifornia? You make a lot of sense.
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Re: Things that make you go hmmmm

Postby Rosemead » Sat Aug 19, 2017 11:01 pm

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Originally Posted by lazyboy97O:
How is a state religion bad, but state medicine good?

Originally Posted by steamboatpete:
Anyone who makes the decision to depend upon the government to take care of their basic needs has essentially doomed himself to a life of bitter disappointment.
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Re: Things that make you go hmmmm

Postby daaswampman » Sat Aug 19, 2017 11:20 pm

DR1VENbyKNOWLEDGE wrote:
daaswampman wrote:"Argue for your limitations, and sure enough they're yours." - Richard Bach



great, and true quote.....so past a one liner, what would you suggest Swamp?

I'm open to you thinking of something I haven't tried....


I was the unlucky bast*** to end up as patriarch of a rather large family. Sometimes you have to make the right decision for the family and that may not always sit well with everyone One elderly uncle was moved from Florida and he eventually got over it. I would not risk my clan for a selfish and stubborn 78 year old? Not a chance!

I would give her my reasons and let her decide to be with family or be left behind. If she cares only for herself - so be it! Swamp
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Re: Things that make you go hmmmm

Postby Illini Warrior » Sun Aug 20, 2017 9:19 am

daaswampman wrote:I am glad Illini Warrior brought up crime. I was talking with a local Sheriff and he states petty property crime is way up and he thinks it is due to the drug epidemic our nation is in. He even mentioned the homeless camps along the major highway.

Personally I think it all ties together, most Americans can't see a better future and will not accept any change is up to them. It has never been easier to get ahead in America, but try to explain that to a product of public education - indoctrination! Swamp



well at least one LE is willing to admit about crime .... town up the road had a freaking explosion of car & home break ins .... local PD chief said it wasn't any worse than usual - 3-4 car breaks are normal - trouble is I counted a dozen car break in reports on their community Facebook page alone - eazy to put out a BS police statement when you fudge numbers ....

a day after that PD statement - armed home invasion at 2am ....
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Re: Things that make you go hmmmm

Postby DR1VENbyKNOWLEDGE » Sun Aug 20, 2017 10:19 am

daaswampman wrote:
DR1VENbyKNOWLEDGE wrote:
daaswampman wrote:"Argue for your limitations, and sure enough they're yours." - Richard Bach



great, and true quote.....so past a one liner, what would you suggest Swamp?

I'm open to you thinking of something I haven't tried....


I was the unlucky bast*** to end up as patriarch of a rather large family. Sometimes you have to make the right decision for the family and that may not always sit well with everyone One elderly uncle was moved from Florida and he eventually got over it. I would not risk my clan for a selfish and stubborn 78 year old? Not a chance!

I would give her my reasons and let her decide to be with family or be left behind. If she cares only for herself - so be it! Swamp



lol...I asked, you delivered! :rofl:

Just the image alone conjured up a good laugh..... It may reach that point, hopefully not.

She cant really walk too well anymore, has major health issues....That would be a rough pull.

Letting mom pass where she prefers and also being cared for seems to be a calculated risk vs a Nuke hitting us. People been prepping since the 50's for that one....

Mom couldn't be called selfish considering she made the choices to provide for us by working her (Censored word. I'm a potty mouth) off raising the last two (me and my little sister) as a single mom working graveyards as a nurse at UCI all by herself after dad passed.

It's sorta my turn, you know? What piece of poo poo wouldn't put his plans on hold to take care of your blood that took care of you sacrificing their life and making sure you ALWAYS had food and a roof?(Besides my 3 other siblings that is...lol)

Things can change....who knows.

I'm prepped. I live 1 mile from her. She has a pool(water) and solar already (42 panels and getting the Tesla battery wall now)....Cant complain really no matter how crazy CA is in general.

Look, WE ALL gunna die. No one can prep away that one.....Prep for the fight of course(If it arrives in our lifetime as it looks like it might).....but otherwise, live and be a good human.

I do appreciate the input/feedback Swamp.....I always love your contributions here even if we have to disagree on this one. :thumbup:
In honor of RebNavy...RIP buddy. You made me smile. :)

Postby rebnavy1862 » Fri Apr 07, 2017 4:00 pm
Driven, are you sure you are from Kalifornia? You make a lot of sense.
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Re: Things that make you go hmmmm

Postby Rosemead » Sun Aug 20, 2017 11:40 am

What an interesting turn we have taken.

Born and raise in Southern California, with the exception of a couple of years in the Air Force, have never lived anywhere else. ( You don't get to pick where you are born). I would not consider moving, but for the socialists taking over and turning violent, as their dream does not work out.

Convincing family to move to cold areas is going to be difficult. And it may take a catastrophe to get them moving. Yes I can see myself walking, pushing a cart, just like any other refuge. ( I may want to look for a cart.) Prep's or no prep's.

So I got to side with DbK, easy to say, hard to implement.
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How is a state religion bad, but state medicine good?

Originally Posted by steamboatpete:
Anyone who makes the decision to depend upon the government to take care of their basic needs has essentially doomed himself to a life of bitter disappointment.
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Re: Things that make you go hmmmm

Postby sageprice » Sun Aug 20, 2017 11:56 am

Each time I turn on the Tvee and hear a about some riot or terrible disaster I have to sit back and say "Hmmm, Two people died because they didn't heed warnings. There are millions of Americans, Hmmm, there are no cures for stupidity, ignorance, or arrogance. Hmmm." Then I turn off the BOOB TUBE, not wishing to be exposed to any BOOBish foolishness.
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Re: Things that make you go hmmmm

Postby anita » Sun Aug 20, 2017 12:48 pm

Here's my anecdotal evidence:

I put my house on the market Friday, June 2. On Monday, June 5, a guy shows up at my door, wants directions to a house a couple of miles (and a couple of roads) away. I think "what, no GPS?" but give him the directions. He comments on the dog, who is barking her head off. Normally I tell people (like the plumber, who is meant to be here) that she's friendly, but this guy, I don't. I don't know why. Sixth sense, I guess.

That afternoon, I get a message on NextDoor Neighbor (sort of like Facebook for your neighbors/local vicinity--if you don't have it, it's great!) from someone whose house had been broken into. I emailed, turns out his house is a mile away and also on the market. I look up the address my "visitor" gave me (which was non-existent). Closest house to it is also on the market. All three properties are fairly expensive. All have fairly long driveways and you can't see much from the road. I am surrounded by farmland, so it's not like I live in the city, although Trenton, NJ is a half-hour away. Philly, Camden, and Newark NJ an hour. NYC an hour and a half.

I call the police. Turns out two other houses in the vicinity were broken into recently as well. The next week another couple were. I suspect the robbers were using the MLS (with all those lovely pictures of the interior of homes, and beautiful drone shots of long winding drives and open spaces) to find neighborhoods that are good targets.

Five years ago I never locked my doors. Now I have to worry about someone breaking in when I'm not home--or when I am home.

So the police had me in to look at photos. (Most excitement I've had in a while.) Then, a month ago, the homicides you've probably heard about (this is in scenic Bucks County, PA, north of Philly) four young guys killed by a nut whose parents own several contracting and concrete businesses. The nut killed them for little reason--supposedly a drug sale gone bad, four times over-- runs over one with a backhoe when he runs out of ammo, and buried them 12 feet down, using the backhoe. That murder happened about 3 miles from me. (The murderer and his family live about 45 min south, but they just happen to own a $5 million, 90-acre property here, for no good reason. Odd.

This is a community that has little crime--ever. The yuck is definitely headed my direction. But at least the murders apparently made the thieves go elsewhere--somewhere with less police/state police/and FBI presence!

Glad I'm moving after all that. The house is under agreement and I found a new one in the middle (literally) of nowhere. Still in a neighborhood of 15 houses, (I'm on my own since my husband died and youngest is headed to college this fall, so need some neighbors.) But it's almost impossible to get to currently. Bridge out on one side, Lots of dirt roads. Hard to find something like that around here. It's about a half-hour north of here in a very rural area. Mostly wooded, but enough room for a garden and small orchard. Can have chickens.

But it's scary to be moving now. I'm leaving behind an extensive well-fenced garden, mature apple and pear trees, kiwis and asparagus. Established hazelnuts/hazelberts. A hand pump on the well. Generator. The Fort Knox of chicken coops. A great house, but much too big for me. (So is the next one, unfortunately, just not as big as this one.)

Did no canning this year. Raised a lot of dried beans instead, which I can take. Eaten up a lot of food.

The next two years I'll be at high risk, I imagine, until I can get the garden in and a wood stove installed, etc. Not happy things seem to be heating up before I can get settled in the hinterlands, but it is what it is. At least the knowledge goes with me. And I've learned a lot over the last few years, thanks in large part to all of you on APN.
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Re: Things that make you go hmmmm

Postby PatrioticStabilist » Sun Aug 20, 2017 6:02 pm

I saw comments about the homeless, can explain easily.

It's not just druggies, its people not making enough money. At the duplex we just sold, the rents were $595
and $450, for a 2 and 1 bedroom, we knew they were low but as long as the property taxes were low, we made
money and they could live well. but the taxes went up over $3k, this was in Texas, the ladies couldn't pay
that much, they had lived there forever and had to move in with family.

The folks that just bought it put the first 2 bedroom up for rent for $900, that will be plus a $52 water, sewer, and trash
bill for zero usage. The gas bill was $20, no usage, one had the AC almost off and was $50, the other was set low and $140, house
is well insulated, systems are newer and almost new. So lots of money for rent. I'm sure people are struggling to pay money
like that. This is a nice house but in a very poor neighborhood, mostly Hispanic, but good schools for the kids to go to and
an expensive subdivision next door.
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Re: Things that make you go hmmmm

Postby DR1VENbyKNOWLEDGE » Tue Aug 22, 2017 10:38 am

PatrioticStabilist wrote:I saw comments about the homeless, can explain easily.

It's not just druggies, its people not making enough money. At the duplex we just sold, the rents were $595
and $450, for a 2 and 1 bedroom, we knew they were low but as long as the property taxes were low, we made
money and they could live well. but the taxes went up over $3k, this was in Texas, the ladies couldn't pay
that much, they had lived there forever and had to move in with family.

The folks that just bought it put the first 2 bedroom up for rent for $900, that will be plus a $52 water, sewer, and trash
bill for zero usage. The gas bill was $20, no usage, one had the AC almost off and was $50, the other was set low and $140, house
is well insulated, systems are newer and almost new. So lots of money for rent. I'm sure people are struggling to pay money
like that. This is a nice house but in a very poor neighborhood, mostly Hispanic, but good schools for the kids to go to and
an expensive subdivision next door.



This is no joke. IT'S BAD HERE!

I do what I can...I'm told its extremely helpful by those I choose to interact with, but even I can see it's like putting a band aid on a 1 foot gash that's infected. That doesn't stop me though.

The issue is real..... I've talked to a lot of people that have never been homeless, drove fancy cars, owned homes/rented, and have become homeless since 2015 or sooner.

Rents here in Orange County are at $1500-$3000 in some cases for A 1 BEDROOM!.....in a really bad slum type area it might be $900.

Here is our riverbed....This was taken a few months ago...It goes on like this for about 20 miles. No joke or exaggeration....Its BAD.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yRZbbJ9kyg

That's just the riverbed.....Every corner, every grocery store, every park, playground, beach path, wilderness area is the same...just in less concentration.


Don't know about the rest of the country, but this is what I see here.



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Postby rebnavy1862 » Fri Apr 07, 2017 4:00 pm
Driven, are you sure you are from Kalifornia? You make a lot of sense.
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Re: Things that make you go hmmmm

Postby anita » Tue Aug 22, 2017 3:03 pm

Wow, Driven, that brings it home.

However, the nice tents and the solar panels are odd for homeless people to have. Lots of bikes, too.

It looks like we are a lot closer to Venezuela than I had suspected.
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Re: Things that make you go hmmmm

Postby PatrioticStabilist » Tue Aug 22, 2017 5:34 pm

Remember many of these people may very well have jobs, they aren't making enough to qualify
and pay the exorbitant rentals being charged.

Here where we live we have rentals, right now only 5, plus a bit of farmland rented and we bought
a building the local post office rents. We rent slightly below market, hubby and I need to make a profit but
we are not trying to gouge anyone. We get calls daily looking for places to rent. He is working on 2 more
now and will have one ready in a couple of months. We want to make sure people can live, we have always
done it this way. Make sure they are well insulated, all systems are functioning, generally heating and
cooling systems updated too. We want people to get value for their money. We have loyal renters.
Sure we could make a lot more money, but as hubby says we have enough. That's what burns me about
so many very wealthy, they want it all and more, they do not want to share with the people that make
them wealthy at all. After you have so many millions or billions, what is the point of hoarding more?

Husband wants to get 2 more, but I for one am tired and getting old and also even here prices for these
old houses are priced way beyond what we want to pay now so we can keep our rents low. And now because
the state has reduced monies to our counties and towns, local property taxes must be raised and they
have even raised local option taxes so hard for us to hold rents down and make a decent return. People
here are very priced out of the market too, but we don't see homeless around here. They are likely couch
surfing with friends or relatives. It would be hard to do here anyway, especially in cold weather, they
would die even in tents.

This is happening on a much larger scale elsewhere, not sure how it will end, I think just more and more
homeless. A lot of it is also people not taking care of their credit and having a bad score can't even
qualify for a rental. But if no insurance and they have an illness or people are living one paycheck from being
homeless, its hard for them to worry about stuff like credit scores. I don't think it will get better either.
And, of course, you just have some people that make bad choices and will never learn no matter what they
make. Homelessness is a complicated issue for sure.
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