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Heavy Equipment Escort

Postby Permafrost » Sat Sep 09, 2017 3:09 am

So I was driving back to town today and I passed a construction site on the side of the highway. Lots of shiny stuff just sitting around. It got me thinking. I have a Caterpillar key on my keychain(among others like Honda and Yamaha outboard motor keys, Volvo, Case, IR, Hitachi, John Deere, and Polaris snowmachines), so I figured I would see if Cat has updated their locks in the last 10 years. They have not. It's not like I stole it or anything, I just made sure my key still worked. Then I started thinking, does anyone else carry a key?

There are a lot of places a loader can get to that most other vehicles can not, including fording small rivers. The average "highway" speed is about 25 MPH on flat ground, and they will pull most hills around 20 MPH. I've gotten a zoom boom up to 35 MPH on the highway, but that is the exception because it is a telahandler instead of a true loader. The nice thing about heavy equipment is that it is so big nobody in their right mind is going to try to steal it under normal circumstances, so they all take the same key for each manufacturer. A Cat 299 skidsteer key will start up a 966 loader or a D8 bulldozer, same goes for Case and Volvo and Ingersoll Rand. The point I'm making with this is that if the roads are clogged with abandoned vehicles or storm damage has made travel impossible, all one needs to do is hit up your local construction site and fire something up to clear a path. Granted it is probably a little far fetched to envision bulldozing down a highway through gridlock in a mass exodus from a city with a convoy behind you. On the other hand I've "borrowed" equipment sitting at the boat landing to pull stuck vehicles out of the river or smooth out the launch ramp, I even leave a couple of bucks taped to the seat for the fuel I've used so nobody will complain or call the cops. If worse comes to worse, I make a point of knowing where the equipment in my area is so that I have more options if I need them.

For anyone who has not considered this, a few heavy equipment keys (along with other universal keys) will add some flexibility to your preps and your bug out plans.
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Re: Heavy Equipment Escort

Postby Illini Warrior » Sat Sep 09, 2017 7:06 am

just had an incident the other week - kid stole a bulldozer from a construction site one nite - little joyride thru the retail area - took out a squad car and almost squished the cop - got an idea he got a key from a family member ....

in regard to equipment and a SHTF - if you go and rent the equipment just prior to the crunch - have paperwork - can't return it - that's all legit and a situation between you and the rental outfit ....

stealing equipment - that's using it without permission - whole different animal .... might get away with it if means that you basically landed up safeguarding the equipment when the jobsite/rental lot got ravaged by looters - no matter what the SHTF scenario I'd definitely leave a message at the jobsite/rental lot that couldn't be missed - get my azz back over there ASAP when things clear up - looters could be lined up & shot in some cases ....
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Re: Heavy Equipment Escort

Postby angie_nrs » Sat Sep 09, 2017 3:13 pm

I keep old keys that we have from equipment we don't have just for this reason. I have a key box for those mis-placed, unused, etc. keys that we will likely never use. Snowmobiles were the same way and all took the same key. I don't know if they updated those or not. But we do have keys for snowmobiles that we don't even have anymore.

I kinda chuckled thinking about someone trying to steel BIL's equipment. Unless you have a key, shake this wire twice, pull on that cord, and lean on that lever all at the same time.....you're not getting it started. :rofl: Ha, he can't even get it started half the time. :shakeno: A "would be" thief would probably know better than to try and steel his crappy equipment. But it would be fun to watch them try..... :evil:
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Re: Heavy Equipment Escort

Postby PatrioticStabilist » Sat Sep 09, 2017 11:23 pm

Hubs was a construction supervisor, he still has keys to everything. But I sure wouldn't be
trying them out, might be hard to explain to a cop. LOL!
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Re: Heavy Equipment Escort

Postby Permafrost » Sun Sep 10, 2017 2:21 am

PatrioticStabilist wrote:But I sure wouldn't be trying them out, might be hard to explain to a cop. LOL!

Nice thing about Alaska, there just isn't that many cops. In the 300 mile stretch between North Anchorage (Wasilla) and Fairbanks I think there are like 3 or 4 state troopers for the whole road. That and it is not uncommon for people to "borrow" equipment from road construction sites on the side of the highway to clear accidents or move the moose that get hit, as long as the site is within 30 miles or so of where the equipment is needed. Although that always freaks out the tourists when you tell them you have to go 10 or 20 miles down the road to grab a loader to pull them out of the ditch, and then show up a hour later in a loader that has random company or state markings on it.
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Re: Heavy Equipment Escort

Postby Illini Warrior » Sun Sep 10, 2017 7:25 am

Permafrost wrote:
PatrioticStabilist wrote:But I sure wouldn't be trying them out, might be hard to explain to a cop. LOL!

Nice thing about Alaska, there just isn't that many cops. In the 300 mile stretch between North Anchorage (Wasilla) and Fairbanks I think there are like 3 or 4 state troopers for the whole road. That and it is not uncommon for people to "borrow" equipment from road construction sites on the side of the highway to clear accidents or move the moose that get hit, as long as the site is within 30 miles or so of where the equipment is needed. Although that always freaks out the tourists when you tell them you have to go 10 or 20 miles down the road to grab a loader to pull them out of the ditch, and then show up a hour later in a loader that has random company or state markings on it.



so if someone has a flat and no spare - OK to ''borrow'' a tire off your vehicle and leave you stranded ? ... rummage thru someone's garage for a tool you don't happen to have ... I'm guessing it's all OK until it happens to U - that's usually the way it is - kind of Robin Hood but only helping yourself - in this country we just lock Robin up - other countries chop off a hand - and then there's good old one-on-one firing squad for the countries that have their poo poo together ...

if that piece of equipment you ''borrow'' was intentionally parked for needed servicing - you blow the engine or ruin the drivetrain - cause damage to other property sometime during your ''borrow'' - you just leave your name & address and $10,000 on the seat to start the repairs?
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Re: Heavy Equipment Escort

Postby oldasrocks » Sun Sep 10, 2017 7:40 am

Of course there are those of us who have a filthy mind. I read the title and immediately pictured a 600 lb hooker.
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Re: Heavy Equipment Escort

Postby IceFire » Sun Sep 10, 2017 6:09 pm

LOL, OAR! You, sir, are incorrigible!
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Re: Heavy Equipment Escort

Postby Permafrost » Wed Sep 13, 2017 1:31 am

Illini Warrior wrote:so if someone has a flat and no spare - OK to ''borrow'' a tire off your vehicle and leave you stranded ? ... rummage thru someone's garage for a tool you don't happen to have ... I'm guessing it's all OK until it happens to U - that's usually the way it is

Think it depends on your location and frame of mind. I don't lock my cabin because someone may need something, just about everybody I know does the same as long as they are out of the major cities. Many villages I have lived in people will borrow tools without asking and then bring them back later. I have left my truck at trailheads and come back to find a note saying someone has grabbed one of the three spare tires I carry, they leave contact info and drop it off to me as soon as I am in town to contact them. It is a whole different mentality here. I've even seen a state trooper grab a loader off of a construction site to clear a landslide, because it was going to be days for a state crew to get out to do a hour of work.

Different mentality Illini. In a urban or suburban area a breakdown or road blockage is a inconvenience, in a rural area it can be life or death. Get trapped on a drifted in highway (granted ours are 2 lane gravel) at 50 below zero that only gets 4 or 5 vehicles on it in a week and it will kill people if it is not opened to get to those that are trapped in the middle. Even cops & judges understand this here and make allowances for the grater good, just like other everyday folks that own cabins or construction companies. We even have laws on the books that say it is illegal to pass hitchhikers if it is colder than 35 below zero, because if you do they will die. Like I said it's a different mentality here.
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Re: Heavy Equipment Escort

Postby daaswampman » Wed Sep 13, 2017 6:32 pm

I grew up in Northern Nevada and it was like Permafrost's world! The difference from then and now is borrowing was a necessity and not greed. I can remember taking a neighbor's truck to get my uncle to the hospital, it was not stealing, I intended to return it and pay if needed. The neighbor was not surprised , grateful it helped, and refused any payment!

No different than my boats were recently borrowed by the neighbors when I was at work! Should I have been angry that locks were cut, because kids were missing on the lake? There is a difference between men's laws and what is morally right and wrong! Swamp
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