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Postby FarmerGal » Fri Oct 06, 2017 8:13 pm

Hi all, I just wanted to check around the state to see what everyone is seeing or hearing as far as the influenza virus is moving so far this fall. Would appreciate any observations.
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Re: Influenza

Postby JayJay » Sat Oct 07, 2017 10:38 am

Every doctor office, every nurse encountered since Aug. 28 when Gene had brain surgery has asked about the flu vaccine.
Since we are so fortunate to have never had the flu, and never had the vaccine--we're not having a flu shot.
Haven't heard of any cases and I read several websites daily.

Oh, we are 69 and 67 years old.

And, what state??
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Re: Influenza

Postby IceFire » Sat Oct 07, 2017 8:49 pm

Arizona. This is the Arizona state forum.

And yeah, none of us take the flu shot either. Me, because I'm ALLERGIC to the vaccine (anaphylaxis is an experience I do NOT want to repeat!) Husband, because he has powdered egg issues, and daughter, because with us having issues, she doesn't want to take the risk.
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Re: Influenza

Postby daaswampman » Sat Oct 07, 2017 9:31 pm

You may find the following site helpful. You can choose either your state or a zip code. It will give you the latest reported figures. Keep in mind that there may be a delay in reporting and many people don't dash to the Doctor unless they are really sick.

It is a personal choice, but I would advise anyone able to get the vaccine. I have seen way too many children die from something that could have been prevented. Swamp

https://flunearyou.org/?campaign=GAads& ... jf_D_BwE#/

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CDC estimates of flu-associated yearly deaths in the United States range from a low of about 3,000 to a high of about 49,000 people.

If you have the flu, you can infect others 1 day before showing symptoms and up to 7 days after becoming sick.

The single best way to prevent the flu is to get a flu vaccine each season.
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Re: Influenza

Postby PatrioticStabilist » Sun Oct 08, 2017 9:20 am

Had 2 or 3 shots in my lifetime, got sicker then a dog each time, never again.
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Re: Influenza

Postby farmer_dude48 » Sun Oct 08, 2017 11:54 am

I have never taken the shot , but my wife got it this year she is a pharmacy tech. My sister took it and had a very bad reaction and I just didn't want to take a chance on it..
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Re: Influenza

Postby kenjabroni » Sun Oct 08, 2017 11:03 pm

My wife has been getting them because the VA tells her she should and its free, but I dont get it even though she pushes me to do it. Id rather catch the flu than anything from the supposed vaccine. I only remember getting it once as an adult and I cant remember if it was in the same year I did have the shot.
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Re: Influenza

Postby sageprice » Mon Oct 09, 2017 10:29 am

I am still bothered by the "Cluster effect" reported by the Canadian Health services. Where people who have been taking the shots are more susceptible to new strains. I need to follow up on that report.
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Re: Influenza

Postby DR1VENbyKNOWLEDGE » Tue Oct 10, 2017 10:42 am

daaswampman wrote:You may find the following site helpful. You can choose either your state or a zip code. It will give you the latest reported figures. Keep in mind that there may be a delay in reporting and many people don't dash to the Doctor unless they are really sick.

It is a personal choice, but I would advise anyone able to get the vaccine. I have seen way too many children die from something that could have been prevented. Swamp

https://flunearyou.org/?campaign=GAads& ... jf_D_BwE#/

Did you know?

CDC estimates of flu-associated yearly deaths in the United States range from a low of about 3,000 to a high of about 49,000 people.

If you have the flu, you can infect others 1 day before showing symptoms and up to 7 days after becoming sick.

The single best way to prevent the flu is to get a flu vaccine each season.


This is a tuff choice for us...Not me,(I wont get it) but for our little girl that's 2....

I come from a standpoint of believing in fact based studies. The #'s show the vaccinations help...a lot.

Children and elderly are the most susceptible so the shot(s) is/are pushed to not only them for that reason but everyone for the money(To deny the money part you'd have to be completely ignorant or intentionally biased).

The current CDC schedule is monstrous.(little off topic here but relevant to discussion)
Look at the changes in just the last few years alone(look at 1995 and then 2016)
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/schedules/past.html


So, knowing the risk vs. reward we inoculated Daniela and we even took a delayed approach since we were concerned to begin with....Sure enough, 2nd shot, slight reaction, 3rd shot, MASSIVE reaction at sight injection(DTaP)...of note; dr. said it was a reaction to the preservatives....There are NO preservatives in the 2 different brands for DTaP allowed in the US currently...wow.

At this point, for us, we're done...We will not inoculate further....She has gotten the most relevant ones but not fulfilled the CDC requirements. So, homeschooling it is for sure now.

I have watched a non CDC study(Of sorts) conducted by a Dr. with a control group of 1000 children of his personal patients....He does a delayed schedule or no vaccinations period bases on parental beliefs/choices for them to be in the control group.(The most important being no MMR vaccination until well after 3 years old) and so far the numbers are astounding......Only 1 case of autism with children over the age of 5.

Now while this is not a sponsored, rigorously controlled control group it is massive finding that alone should demand/warrant another study.
(The CDC will not do this study since it doesn't fit the agenda of herd immunity and the only one preformed to date had massive amounts of African American male children removed from the results that were autistic...Massive manipulation of the data sets for desired findings / Tsk, Tsk...) http://info.cmsri.org/the-driven-researcher-blog/link-between-vaccines-and-african-american-boys-hidden-by-cdc-says-whistleblower

The current CDC #'s show there should have been 15 children showing signs of Autism by now in his control group.....ONLY 1 WHEN THERE SHOULD BE 15!!! Astounding.


So, ya, taking into account our personal experiences, we're done.....I'm in no way saying what you should decide as I wont infringe on anyone's personal choices for their child....but I'm also not going to let anyone decide for me.

Form your own opinion. Just remove the uneducated emotional responses out there....Form a fact based opinion and proceed accordingly and continue to look at all data sets and be willing to change your opinion if you see evidence to the contrary of your beliefs.


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Re: Influenza

Postby 3ADScout » Tue Oct 10, 2017 8:51 pm

Hope it isn't a bad flu season in the US, the is an IV shortage (some solutions) due to quality control issue in a plant that the FDA inspected, plus from what I understand another plant was in Puerto Rico and is shut down. The demand is also increasing with all the earthquake hurricanes and fires too.
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Re: Influenza

Postby JayJay » Wed Oct 11, 2017 11:15 am

The #'s show the vaccinations help...a lot
Hello---who do you think conducts those studies...AND reports those results?

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Re: Influenza

Postby IceFire » Sat Dec 16, 2017 11:01 pm

The flu is definitely here in my county. Just spent 6 hours in the ER with my husband last night. He ended up needing a breathing treatment, and a LARGE Prednisone tablet after he popped positive for influenza A, and we left (at 1 AM) with an inhaler and a prescription for more prednisone.

So today, added more (already had some on hand) masks and nitrile gloves to the stash; found some elderberry gummies to get him to take the elderberry; and picked up some organic celery, parsley, and chicken thighs to add with the butter, onions, garlic, carrots, other herbs, noodles, and chicken broth I had at home to make up a big pot of chicken soup. Started it in my 5 qt. dutch oven, but ended up needing to transfer it to my large stock pot.

Increased my dosage of elderberry syrup (actually, I had increased it when he first got sick at the beginning of the week BEFORE we knew what it was he had) to try and NOT get it myself, since I'm allergic to the vaccine.
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Re: Influenza

Postby sageprice » Wed Dec 20, 2017 1:58 pm

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Re: Influenza

Postby woodchipper518 » Wed Dec 20, 2017 2:24 pm

For the DFW metroplex area....flu season is hitting hard now. Both my wife and daughter work in urgent care centers and they are seeing flu diagnoses numbers at 70% of their patient census. The other 30% are asthma/breathers, strep and injury-related issues. DFW just had their 1st cold spell and rain in the last week which tends to trigger asthmatics and other breathing difficulties.

The flu shot is showing to only be 25% effective this year. Which flu strain will be most prominent each year is somewhat of a scientific crapshoot...so this year this missed more than last year

There was a spike in flu back in Aug-Sept which was due to vacationers to Mexico coming back just before school started back. Which introduced it into an incubator called the classroom....LOL. Most people hadn't gotten the flu shot when this one hit.

There will likely be another spike after Christmas as families mingle and early in the New Year as kids go back to school/incubator.
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Re: Influenza

Postby ReadyMom » Wed Dec 20, 2017 10:50 pm

JayJay wrote:The #'s show the vaccinations help...a lot
Hello---who do you think conducts those studies...AND reports those results?

Wake up child.


I used to give public preparedness presentations for flu pandemic preparedness. My partner in the presentations was the head/director of virology of a very well-known hospital in Pennsylvania. He adamantly recommended the flu vaccine. He's on the front line with diagnosis and testing, so I don't feel so jaded in my own decision regarding flu vaccine vs big pharma. Granted big pharma IS a concern, but proper & educated vaccinations IS necessary for a number of serious, life threatening/altering concerns.
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