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.308 Win. vs. 6.5 Creedmoor: Which is Better?

Postby Cast Iron » Sun Nov 19, 2017 12:33 pm

Just an interesting comparison.

I like the 6.5s (Creedmore, Lapua, 6.5-284 Norma, Grendel), but when it comes to commonality, cost, I have to stick with .308WIN.

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Re: .308 Win. vs. 6.5 Creedmoor: Which is Better?

Postby Illini Warrior » Sun Nov 19, 2017 1:42 pm

depends greatly on your individual area of the country - around here .308 has cut into the 30-06 & 30-30 shelf space - 6.5 ammo is far & in between ....
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Re: .308 Win. vs. 6.5 Creedmoor: Which is Better?

Postby Cast Iron » Sun Nov 19, 2017 2:13 pm

Illini Warrior wrote:depends greatly on your individual area of the country - around here .308 has cut into the 30-06 & 30-30 shelf space - 6.5 ammo is far & in between ....


Right.

The cost of 6.5 Creedmore is way more, even from the same manufactures when compared to .308WIN.

And, for fire and forget (the brass that is in a SHTF situation) I can get once fired brass for even cheaper.

If I got back into long range target shooting, then ok.
But then we are getting serious here, turning the necks, precision dies, match grade primers and bullets etc.
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Re: .308 Win. vs. 6.5 Creedmoor: Which is Better?

Postby straightshooter » Sun Nov 19, 2017 2:37 pm

I saw the performance of 6.5 Creedmore on elk this fall, and I'm not impressed. It may punch cute little groups on paper, it may work fine on soft targets ;) but I wouldn't be very confident about it reliably putting meat on the table. It could have been any number of factors that led to the results I saw, bullet choice being chief, but still...
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Re: .308 Win. vs. 6.5 Creedmoor: Which is Better?

Postby Cast Iron » Sun Nov 19, 2017 5:15 pm

Use the right tool for the right job.
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Re: .308 Win. vs. 6.5 Creedmoor: Which is Better?

Postby Fullmoon » Sun Nov 19, 2017 11:32 pm

More to consider than just accuracy. Most NATO countries and the U.S. military still use the 308 or 7.62 x 51 NATO cartridge so availability of 308 will be almost guaranteed, even if you must disassemble belts of machine gun ammunition.
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Re: .308 Win. vs. 6.5 Creedmoor: Which is Better?

Postby Cajun68 » Mon Nov 20, 2017 8:10 pm

30.06 is still way to go.
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Re: .308 Win. vs. 6.5 Creedmoor: Which is Better?

Postby munchie3409 » Fri Dec 01, 2017 9:48 pm

I always love these "best" debates as it's very difficult to define "best" for anything because everything is subjective.

I've owned 308 in the past and it has pros/cons just like most things in life. I currently have two 6.5CM as I am a distance shooter and the high BC of the .264 bullets are impressive.

In the end, shot placement will trump caliber. You can have a 50BMG with some serious kenetic energy, but if you cannot hit your target it won't matter how much KE or BC the caliber has if you cannot hit the target.

I never worry about resupply because if I buy a caliber or firearm, I will have reloading components or factory ammo...if for some reason I run out, I will be darn happy that I survived to be able to say that I ran out of X or Y ammo. If I did manage to survive...I would have my resupply along the way.
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Re: .308 Win. vs. 6.5 Creedmoor: Which is Better?

Postby Lionheart1972 » Mon Dec 04, 2017 2:12 pm

I know folks who love the 6.5 C, and I 'm sure they serve a purpose. I like the 308 better for many of the reasons mentioned above. I personally own several different caliber of rifles because of what CastIron wrote... "the right tool for the right job." When I think about a new firearm I always ask myself this simple question, Can I buy the ammo at Walmart?
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Re: .308 Win. vs. 6.5 Creedmoor: Which is Better?

Postby danthman114 » Mon Dec 04, 2017 3:20 pm

when I get something I look to see how common reloading components are for them. my least common is a 30-338 winmag. however, I can substitute 338winmag brass by just necking down. I can also use other belted winmag brass but it takes a lot of work to anneal and neck without dimpling the shoulders. it is good to have multiple tools tho...
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Re: .308 Win. vs. 6.5 Creedmoor: Which is Better?

Postby Cast Iron » Mon Dec 04, 2017 4:52 pm

Lionheart1972 wrote:I know folks who love the 6.5 C, and I 'm sure they serve a purpose. I like the 308 better for many of the reasons mentioned above. I personally own several different caliber of rifles because of what CastIron wrote... "the right tool for the right job." When I think about a new firearm I always ask myself this simple question, Can I buy the ammo at Walmart?


That is what I call the "Rule of Three."
Can I find a given round at,
1) The local gun shop
2) The big box sporting/hunting goods store
3) Walmart

That, and the cost of reloading components, with brass being likely the key, bullets secondary, and the amount of powder to push a bullet a third consideration.

I also like to try to keep to powders that can span a number of not only rounds for a given round, but that can work in other rounds.
Not always doable.
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Re: .308 Win. vs. 6.5 Creedmoor: Which is Better?

Postby woodchipper518 » Fri Dec 15, 2017 5:22 pm

There are 8 houses on my street. Three of them have .308 hunting rifles. I have .308. Nobody has 6.5. Walmart 4miles down sells .308. What about 6.5?
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Re: .308 Win. vs. 6.5 Creedmoor: Which is Better?

Postby John Galt 1 » Sat Dec 16, 2017 2:17 pm

6,5 vs and 30 caliber.

Assuming you're a loader .308 is a much more versatile round. In a pinch you can run a 110 gn bullet through a .308 and 30/06 or run a 180 gn through a .300 blk. You can mix and match powders and primers during a time of shortage.

But with 6.5 you're very limited in reloading options.

Keep in mind that reloading also had trade potential. A neighbor has penicillin that your kid desperately needs. He's got the brass for his old 30/30. You may have the ability to basically load (wrong dies) some shells for the meds. But 6.5? not many neighbors have anything that requires 6.5 cal bullets.
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Re: .308 Win. vs. 6.5 Creedmoor: Which is Better?

Postby trad_bowhunter1965 » Wed Dec 27, 2017 9:45 pm

The 308 Win is to easy to find and reloading it is cheap to do not saying that 308 is better then the 6.5 OH yes I am 308 Win has been Proved since 1952 that's why NATO use it.
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Re: .308 Win. vs. 6.5 Creedmoor: Which is Better?

Postby maxdog116 » Thu Dec 28, 2017 8:59 pm

Better is always a relative term. The best means, what works best for the situation and the shooter. When I run a coed pistol class, there is always the mans man who, when asked what the best pistol is caliber/cartridge, usually says 357 or 44 mag. (or once in a while you hear the 50cal Desert Eagle) The woman never speak up. Then I tell them the best means, what you shoot well, fits you and you hit the target with. If a man or woman can shoot an aggressor with a 22 long rifle, accurately and multiple times, then its better than not carrying at all. My favorite rifle is my 270, 30/30, 308, 7mm and of course 556/223 and 9mm. (yes I know its a pistol round) They each do different things better than the others. I had the 30-06 around for many years (my first rifle at age 12) and still do, but its shot less often now. These are my best caliber rifle cartridges. So I guess you have to buy multiple rifles or decide what the best "All around" cartridge for what you intend to do. Good luck.

Now, if you asked what is the best deer rifle is for the northeast woods, I would go with 270 or 308 or in the thicket, 30-30.
270 is my open field thin woods rifle.
308 is my open woods rifle.
And the 30-30 is my swamp rifle.
7mm would be my much more open field rifle, but those are getting hard to find around here anymore.
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